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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2005 4:41 pm 
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I dug this out over the weekend and gave it a listen for the first time in a few years. This album has some brilliant standout tracks where Neil and the band really find a groove ("Crime In The City", "Don't Cry", "On Broadway", "Eldorado"), and as usual, the imagery and storytelling in Young's lyrics are fantastic.

So he balanced the ashtray
As he picked up the phone
And said, Send me a songwriter
Who's drifted far from home
And make sure that he's hungry
Make sure he's alone
and Send me a cheeseburger
And a new Rolling Stone.


There are a few songs that just strike me as lame and cheesy now, though. A good example is "Someday". Now, part of me just wants to blame the production - the cheesy cut'n'paste piano, the smooth Lite FM horns (read: solo saxophone)... ugh. - I want to believe there is a good song under there.... but it's a close call... could be tripe.

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I still need to get this one.

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Believe it or not, this may be my favorite Neil young album, even though I realize it's not universally recognized as such. Then again, I'm also an unabashed fan of Walking on Water, so my credibility is pretty shaky when it comes Neil.

EDIT: Apparently, I'm not enough of a fan to remember it's actually called Landing on Water. FT stands for FuckTard.

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It's great. The beginning of Neil's comeback. Ragged Glory is awesome too!

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It's impressive to think that while I find this album to be quite enjoyable, it's probably only his 12th or 13th best.

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FT wrote:
Believe it or not, this may be my favorite Neil young album, even though I realize it's not universally recognized as such. Then again, I'm also an unabashed fan of Walking on Water, so my credibility is pretty shaky when it comes Neil.


Ha! I am huge Neil fan from the Buf. Spring. days on ... as much adulation as he gets every 12-14 years, I think he is underappreciated. I have listened to Freedom, Ragged Glory and Walking on Water in the last year and to me Landing on Water is the best of the three. The 1980-1985 albums are the only things he put out that are total crap... for me Landing on Water was a kind of return-to-form.

I think he has hidden riches. Sleeping with Angels was one of the best releases of any artist in the 90's, much better than Harvest Moon.

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harry wrote:
Sleeping with Angels was one of the best releases of any artist in the 90's...

Hoh yes. Yes indeedy.

But since the subject was Freedom...

:notes: Don't cry... My sweet love...

TWANNNNGGG-WWWAANNNNGG!!!... BUZZZZZ-CRACK-WANNNNNNNGGGG!!!... ZOOOP! SLASH! TTTWWWAAANNGZZZ!!!



One of my all-time favorite guitar freakouts.


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not my favorite of his, but it's still awesome

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note to self: Do Not listen to Sleeping with Angels in the 1990s if you intend to run for public office.


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chase wrote:
note to self: Do Not listen to Sleeping with Angels in the 1990s if you intend to run for public office.


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"what's so funny about peace, love, understanding and rock and roll suicide."

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I always liked Neil's live, piano-only version of "Someday" but it just sounds too overproduced on the album.


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TWANNNNGGG-WWWAANNNNGG!!!... BUZZZZZ-CRACK-WANNNNNNNGGGG!!!... ZOOOP! SLASH! TTTWWWAAANNGZZZ!!!


Neil should have his own comic book.


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Phil Spoon In A Wetsuit wrote:
HideousLump wrote:
TWANNNNGGG-WWWAANNNNGG!!!... BUZZZZZ-CRACK-WANNNNNNNGGGG!!!... ZOOOP! SLASH! TTTWWWAAANNGZZZ!!!


Neil should have his own comic book.


If it's good enough for Ringo it's good enough for Neil.

Stan Lee and Ringo Starr Team to Develop New Superhero Franchise

IDT Entertainment Will Finance, Produce and Distribute
New Animation, That Will Transform Ringo Starr Into Evil-Battling - Yet Reluctant - Superhero

LOS ANGELES, Jan. 26, 2005 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Stan Lee's POW! Entertainment (Pink Sheets: POWN) has forged a joint venture partnership with Ringo Starr to create and launch an original entertainment franchise. Financed, produced and distributed by IDT Entertainment, the new animation will transform Ringo Starr into an evil-battling, earth-saving (though reluctant) superhero with a great sense of rhythm. IDT Entertainment is a subsidiary of IDT Corporation (NYSE:IDT) (NYSE:IDT.C) , an international telecom, entertainment and technology company.

Legendary comic book creator Stan Lee and his new company Stan Lee's POW! Entertainment will develop the superhero project with Ringo and his entertainment company Rocca Bella for television, home entertainment/DVD, publishing and all categories of licensing and merchandising. Production on the animated series will begin in 2005 with a planned DVD roll-out first quarter of 2006. Executive Producers for POW! Entertainment are Stan Lee and COO, Gill Champion. Executive Producer for Rocca Bella is Marjorie Bach. IDT Entertainment COO, John Hyde will supervise production.

Stan Lee, the creative force responsible for such world-renowned comic book characters as Spiderman, Fantastic Four, the X-Men and The Hulk, will base the superhero on Ringo's famed persona. Ringo will lend his voice to his animated superhero character.

"Ringo is beloved worldwide for his commitment to people and his singular wit. Our Ringo Superhero character will combine these qualities, along with Ringo's secret powers which people generally didn't know about because he has kept them secret, until now," said Stan Lee, who also serves as POW's Chief Creative Officer.

"What a blast this'll be! Ringo Starr is one of the most colorful, creative guys I know. Between the two of us, we've cooked up enough wild ideas for music, humor, action and superhero surprises in our new animated project, featuring the rollicking, ringed and bearded Ringo, to keep the fans happy and excited for years to come," Stan Lee added.

"This is going to be one of the most exciting adventures I've had all day!!!," said Ringo. "What a terrific opportunity to meet and work with the great Stan Lee. I'm so excited to become a 'reluctant superhero'. How great to hang out with Stan and laugh, laugh, laugh, as we're in the first stages of creating this soon to be masterpiece. Adding music to this adventure is something I am also looking forward to. See you in animation land -- soon!"

Steve Brown, Chairman of IDT Entertainment added, "We all feel that Ringo is one of the great personalities of our time. This is a wonderful opportunity and we truly look forward to working with him on this exciting project."

Said Gill Champion, COO POW! Entertainment: "The combination of these two global icons to create a new form of animation utilizing the folklore of Ringo coupled with the Superhero know-how of Stan Lee is a natural. We see this as building a global business that combines great animation, clever story telling, an original musical score, licensing and merchandising, as well as the other ancillary opportunities to support the venture."

Marjorie Bach, executive producer for Rocca Bella, said: "I am excited and honored to work with such extraordinary talent. Ringo is not just a legendary drummer and musician but also an extremely talented artist and storyteller. Stan Lee invented the modern superhero, revived a dying industry and created a mythology. What a team! This animated project will allow us the freedom to create fantasy worlds based on Ringos' superhero character that will delight and inspire everyone, from the children of the 60's to the kids of today."


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:notes:
Your disappointed eyes
Are haunting me like my big lies
I see you glaring now
I see you staring in the fire.
:notes:

My sweet love
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DunwoodyDude wrote:
It's great. The beginning of Neil's comeback. Ragged Glory is awesome too!


Totally agree, particularly Ragged Glory. You can get them both on the cheap now. I hadn't owned Freedom up until last year when I got for $8 at the local big box store.

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man, i've had "Crime in the City" and "Don't Cry" looping in my vehicle since I dug the tape out a couple of weeks ago. Fan-freakin-tastique.

Then I grew up to be a fireman
Put out every fire in town
Put out anything sma-hokin'
But when I put the hose down
The judge sent me to prison
He gave me life without parole
Wish I never put the hose down
Wish I never got old.



You know what else is Fan-freakin-tastique? Making up your own "Crime In the City" lyrics on the fly and singing them over the instrumental outro...

and then he showed me a turnip
that he grew in his house
through his green- thumbed knowledge
and a deal with a mouse
he said "don't shit on my turnip"
"please let that fucker grow"
the mouse gazed at him silently
then said "i'll let you know"
'cause that mouse is doing his own thing
sometimes he's good then he's bad.....

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and how about that desperate shreik in "don't cry" right before the final big guitar blowout?!

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Finally got this onto my iPod last night.

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p.s.


"Gimmie some a that ...... Gimmie some a that crack! Gimmie that crack! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGG! On BROOOAAAAADWAAAAY!"

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 Post subject: Re: Neil Young - Freedom
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still one of my all time favourite threads.

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"Gimmie some a that ...... Gimmie some a that crack! Gimmie that crack! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGG! On BROOOAAAAADWAAAAY!"


This JUST popped into my head the other morning! And I haven't heard anything off this album in years, except for the eternally omnipresent "Rockin' in the Free World."

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 Post subject: Re: Neil Young - Freedom
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No More is another great track on that album, both lyrically and musically. Its a hard look at the life of drug addition. Catchy tune with some great electric guitar at the end. Tried to find the SNL versionon Youtube but couldnt find it.

I think Neil could have made Freedom a classic rather than simply a very good album. If he took out the cheesier songs, and added tracks like Ordinary People, which he was playing live at the time (eventually released on Chrome Dreams II). Keep RITFW, Crime in the City, Dont Cry, Eldorado and No More, add some edgier tunes in between and this would go among the best hard rock albums ever.


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I'll hold onto the ring
I won't forget the way things are
whoa oh
my sweet lo-

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