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01. Fab 5 Freddy - Intro 02. Black Sheep - I'm The One 03. Big Daddy Kane - Like That, Y'all 04. Biz Markie - My Name Is... 05. MC Lyte - Listen Up 06. Grand Puba - Let's Go 07. Smooth B of Nice and Smooth - I Want My Money Back 08. Craig G - Catch A Lyrical Beatdown 09. Chubb Rock - Chubb Rocks The Party 10. Special Ed - This Mic 11. Doug E. Fresh - It Ain't Nothin 12. Jungle Brothers - Back In The Jungle 13. Just Ice - I Run The Streets 14. Melle Mel and Grandmaster Caz - The Battle Is On 15. Master Ace - Revolution's 'Bout To Start

The short story is that, supposedly, this compilation is made up of recordings lost back in 1988 when Top Shelf Studios in New York were looted. 19 years later and some of the tapes were found and voila.

If this story seems to push the edge of credulity, it's probably because it does (to me at least) sound rather implausible for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that for such a "Holy Grail" set of recordings, what is it doing on a super-limited distribution CD from Japan? Moreover, you'd think someone, at some point, would have shared, "oh yeah, there's all these lost tapes of hip-hop giants missing from '88."

The thing is though - the recordings themselves both lend credence to this back story's validity as well as undermine it because, in some cases, the songs really do sound like they could be vintage but in many cases, they also don't sound anything like what hip-hop in '88 would have been like, especially in the production department.

they also don't sound anything like what hip-hop in '88 would have been like, especially in the production department.

but not so much the lost mc lyte skat.

lyte is the best female mc ever.

shiv Wrote:

lyte is the best female mc ever.

you're just saying that because Lauryn Hill paid all those dudes to write her album for her.

the doug e. fresh and jungle brothers songs are great.

grand puba sounds kinda wheezy.

shiv Wrote:

the doug e. fresh and jungle brothers songs are great.

grand puba sounds kinda wheezy.

i also love the Dres, Chubb Rock, Biz and Masta Ace songs. I'm a sucker.

so as far as why it's a fake, would this be perpetrated by the artists themselves, knowing full well that no matter how great a "comeback" album they make, there'd still be marginal interest, while if there was a "lost" tape from their heyday, people would go nuts over it?

discuss.

better song in hindsight: roughneck or gangsta bitch?

This guy has no beer Wrote:

better song in hindsight: roughneck or gangsta bitch?

The Apache song? That dude sunk faster than Funkdoobiest

I think that Apache's "Gangsta Bitch" would be my pick. but I did like some funkdoobiest.

This guy may have beer Wrote:

I think that Apache's "Gangsta Bitch" would be my pick. but I did like some funkdoobiest.

Problem is, it's like choosing between getting your head chopped off, or prison sex: neither option is very appealing

Sen. Black Oak GARkansas Wrote:

This guy may have beer Wrote:

I think that Apache's "Gangsta Bitch" would be my pick. but I did like some funkdoobiest.

Problem is, it's like choosing between getting your head chopped off, or prison sex: neither option is very appealing

what are you talking about? Funkdoobiest stole the show at the Soul Assassins tour circa 1995!

Author:	Black Magic Putin [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:57 am ]
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Any votes? either way I'm enjoying the hell out of this. Quote: http://coldrockdaspot.blogspot.com/2007/08/hmmmmsomething-just-isnt-right-about.html 01. Fab 5 Freddy - Intro 02. Black Sheep - I'm The One 03. Big Daddy Kane - Like That, Y'all 04. Biz Markie - My Name Is... 05. MC Lyte - Listen Up 06. Grand Puba - Let's Go 07. Smooth B of Nice and Smooth - I Want My Money Back 08. Craig G - Catch A Lyrical Beatdown 09. Chubb Rock - Chubb Rocks The Party 10. Special Ed - This Mic 11. Doug E. Fresh - It Ain't Nothin 12. Jungle Brothers - Back In The Jungle 13. Just Ice - I Run The Streets 14. Melle Mel and Grandmaster Caz - The Battle Is On 15. Master Ace - Revolution's 'Bout To Start soul-sides.com Wrote: The short story is that, supposedly, this compilation is made up of recordings lost back in 1988 when Top Shelf Studios in New York were looted. 19 years later and some of the tapes were found and voila. If this story seems to push the edge of credulity, it's probably because it does (to me at least) sound rather implausible for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that for such a "Holy Grail" set of recordings, what is it doing on a super-limited distribution CD from Japan? Moreover, you'd think someone, at some point, would have shared, "oh yeah, there's all these lost tapes of hip-hop giants missing from '88." The thing is though - the recordings themselves both lend credence to this back story's validity as well as undermine it because, in some cases, the songs really do sound like they could be vintage but in many cases, they also don't sound anything like what hip-hop in '88 would have been like, especially in the production department.

Author:	shaMoxie [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:22 pm ]
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This guy has no beer Wrote: they also don't sound anything like what hip-hop in '88 would have been like, especially in the production department. [/quote] i'm intrigued by this, but not so much the lost mc lyte skat. hate to be a liberty-taker, but i can't vote your poll until i hear that grand puba love.

Author:	Cotton [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:35 pm ]
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Wow, this looks pretty awesome. I'm gonna download this when I get home. Moxie Wrote: but not so much the lost mc lyte skat. if you can't poop on MC Lyte, then you, sir, are not welcome in my house.

Author:	Black Magic Putin [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:44 pm ]
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the lyte track is fire!

Author:	shiv [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:52 pm ]
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lyte is the best female mc ever.

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Author:	shaMoxie [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:17 pm ]
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these are better than ratatat remixes.

Author:	Cotton [ Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:12 pm ]
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shiv Wrote: lyte is the best female mc ever. you're just saying that because Lauryn Hill paid all those dudes to write her album for her.

Author:	shiv [ Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:06 am ]
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Cotton Wrote: shiv Wrote: lyte is the best female mc ever. you're just saying that because Lauryn Hill paid all those dudes to write her album for her. nah, i never liked lauryn hill.

Author:	shiv [ Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:41 pm ]
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the doug e. fresh and jungle brothers songs are great. grand puba sounds kinda wheezy.

Author:	Black Magic Putin [ Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:39 pm ]
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shiv Wrote: the doug e. fresh and jungle brothers songs are great. grand puba sounds kinda wheezy. i also love the Dres, Chubb Rock, Biz and Masta Ace songs. I'm a sucker.

Author:	shiv [ Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:32 am ]
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This guy has no beer Wrote: shiv Wrote: the doug e. fresh and jungle brothers songs are great. grand puba sounds kinda wheezy. i also love the Dres, Chubb Rock, Biz and Masta Ace songs. I'm a sucker. yeah i was surprised by the chubb rock song and masta ace always tells a good story. dres song was too short. smooth b song was okay but i don't think a whole solo album of him would go over well, he needs greg nice.

Author:	Cotton [ Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:51 am ]
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so as far as why it's a fake, would this be perpetrated by the artists themselves, knowing full well that no matter how great a "comeback" album they make, there'd still be marginal interest, while if there was a "lost" tape from their heyday, people would go nuts over it? discuss.

Author:	paper [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:40 pm ]
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Cotton Wrote: so as far as why it's a fake, would this be perpetrated by the artists themselves, knowing full well that no matter how great a "comeback" album they make, there'd still be marginal interest, while if there was a "lost" tape from their heyday, people would go nuts over it? discuss. yeah, I think you're on the button there cotton.

Author:	Cotton [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:25 pm ]
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I'm so fucking late to this because I forgot I'd put it n my ipod folder because I don't have itunes here, but this is fucking awesome. they should tour on this or something. and the Biz and the special ed joints are ON.

Author:	Senator LooGAR [ Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:06 pm ]
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I snagged this recently, and it has been getting major spins down at the Ol MGA Offices. Need to get a burn for the truckster, this will sound good on dat Bose. For the record, I ain't buyin that "lost tapes" shit, and Lyte's early shit was tight (Lyte As A Rock, etc) but man that fucking Roughneck song made me want to kill everything and everyone in the mid nineties (11th grade-ish?)

Author:	cybin [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:36 pm ]
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Random memory of 8-8-88: The very very first Cubs night game, tho not official due to being called on account of rain in the early innings.

Author:	shiv [ Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:22 am ]
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funkdoobiest at least has a wikipedia page. and bow wow wow is an awesome song.

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Author:	Black Magic Putin [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:31 pm ]
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yeah, it is hot like fiyah

Author:	Black Magic Putin [ Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:28 pm ]
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better song in hindsight: roughneck or gangsta bitch?

Author:	Senator LooGAR [ Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:43 pm ]
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This guy has no beer Wrote: better song in hindsight: roughneck or gangsta bitch? The Apache song? That dude sunk faster than Funkdoobiest

Author:	Senator LooGAR [ Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:16 am ]
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Sen. Black Oak GARkansas Wrote: This guy has no beer Wrote: better song in hindsight: roughneck or gangsta bitch? The Apache song? That dude sunk faster than Funkdoobiest I need answers, crack

Author:	Black Magic Putin [ Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:54 am ]
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I think that Apache's "Gangsta Bitch" would be my pick. but I did like some funkdoobiest.

Author:	Senator LooGAR [ Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:10 pm ]
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This guy may have beer Wrote: I think that Apache's "Gangsta Bitch" would be my pick. but I did like some funkdoobiest. Problem is, it's like choosing between getting your head chopped off, or prison sex: neither option is very appealing

Author:	Cotton [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:56 pm ]
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Sen. Black Oak GARkansas Wrote: This guy may have beer Wrote: I think that Apache's "Gangsta Bitch" would be my pick. but I did like some funkdoobiest. Problem is, it's like choosing between getting your head chopped off, or prison sex: neither option is very appealing what are you talking about? Funkdoobiest stole the show at the Soul Assassins tour circa 1995!

Author:	Senator LooGAR [ Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:28 pm ]
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Cotton Wrote: Sen. Black Oak GARkansas Wrote: This guy may have beer Wrote: I think that Apache's "Gangsta Bitch" would be my pick. but I did like some funkdoobiest. Problem is, it's like choosing between getting your head chopped off, or prison sex: neither option is very appealing what are you talking about? Funkdoobiest stole the show at the Soul Assassins tour circa 1995! Gangsta Bitch v. Ruffneck was the original question. Also, please don't spend you time defending Funkdoobiest, its unbecoming.