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 Post subject: pitchforkmedia likes the new ryan adams?
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 10:36 am 
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okay what is going on here? is the end of the world nigh?

Ryan Adams and the Cardinals
Cold Roses
[Lost Highway; 2005]
Rating: 7.2

In late 2001, Ryan Adams was inadvertently anointed the face-du-jour for "alt-country," an idea scraped off the ink-smeared pages of No Depression and tremulously shot into semi-mainstream consciousness by an over-jubilant, rural-romanticizing press: Adams' "breakthrough" record, Gold, turned out to be a lot more alt-rock than alt-country, and its proper, non-demo follow-up, 2003's spastic Rock N Roll, ditched the pedal steel altogether, embracing, instead, overblown riffs and smarmy vocal mugging. Cold Roses, which follows two weepy acoustic EPs (2003's Love Is Hell Parts One and Two), sees Adams trudging back to his country roots, turning up the twang, curling his cowboy boots into cold, east village pavement, and transforming his frantic yawps into star-fed cries.

Even for Adams' most zealous fans, hunting down new material has never been a particularly pressing concern: The two-disc Cold Roses is one of (a vaguely audacious) three full-length releases planned for 2005 (Jacksonville City Nights is slated to arrive this summer, with 29 expected in the fall), and while Adams has never been an especially sharp judge of his own work, Cold Roses suffers considerably from its double-disc conceit. Overstuffed and vaguely monotonous, the album could be easily whittled down to a single sequence of impressive songs; Instead, it's a meandering, occasionally moving series of mid-tempo laments, some more memorable than others.

Despite ample backing by the Cardinals (guitarists J.P. Bowersock and Cindy Cashdollar, drummer Brad Pemberton, and bassist Catherine Popper; with singer-songwriter Rachael Yamagata, formerly of Chicago's Bumpus, taking guest turns on "Cold Roses" and "Let It Ride"), Cold Roses doesn't feel particularly collaborative; followers of Adams' solo work will recognize loads of parallels to Adams' post-Whiskeytown, 2000 solo debut, Heartbreaker (minus the punk throwdowns).

Cold Roses' most palpable reference point may be American Beauty-era Grateful Dead: Excellent opener "Magnolia Mountain" mixes slow, "Box of Rain" melancholy ("If the morning don't come/ Will you lie to me?/ Will you take me to your bed and lay me down?") with Adams' trademark guitar scrapes and sandpapered howls, while "Cold Roses" is packed with giddy guitar noodling and jam-friendly interludes (even Adams' vocals seem deliberately Garcia-infused, straining and paper-thin, careening off into a smoke-filled sunset.) Meanwhile, nearly every bit of electric guitar on Cold Roses sounds as though it was plucked straight from Dick's vault, all wiggly solos and playful licks, unintentional and woozy.

Lead single "Let It Ride" bounces, proudly shuffling through a laundry-list of country requirements: whining steel guitar, longing mentions of Tennessee and Carolina, nods to the Cumberland River and ferryboats, big, lonesome wails. But "Let It Ride" also employs plenty of weird, Ennio Morricone-inspired western guitar whirls, and Adams' coaxing vocals are undeniable, charmingly sincere and innocent: The resulting song is properly engaging, more classic country than alt-anything.

"Cherry Lane" employs honky-tonk yawping and girl-gone words ("The glass/ It hits the floor" is accompanied by requisite glass-shattering sound effects), while the preciously titled "How Do You Keep Love Alive" mopes along, wearied and oddly pretty, half-sung over a languishing piano line. Adams' songwriting proclivities have always flirted with MOR, adult-alternative sappiness, but for the most part, Cold Roses is clever and uncommonly listenable, far less bombastic and contrived than its predecessor. Even lyrically, Adams is modest and cautiously confessional, careful to avoid the cocky caterwauling that invades much of his back catalogue.

Tellingly, Cold Roses is the first Ryan Adams record not to feature a picture of him on the cover; it's increasingly difficult to say exactly when Adams transitioned from bloated media darling to scrappy underdog, but it happened, and Adams commandeered the passage all by himself, squirming away from the overblown antics of yesteryear and embracing, instead, the staid earnestness of his roots. It's a welcome return.


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I've been wondering how the fork was gonna handle this. I really love this album so far.

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i think the review is fairly dead-on given how off-ass-kilter their reviews often are.

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is it just me or do people find their reviews obnoxious and just flatout not good. it's almost like reading some college assignment for english class. the only thing they have going is that they at least have a point system (which needs to be taken with a grain of salt at times).


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I miss the the doctor/patient reviews. What's the diagnosis of Ryan's career path doc? I need to know!

Actually, the 7.2 rating indicates Pitchfork likes the album but reading the article (except for the very last sentence) makes it sound like they hate it.

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yeah, i see where it is written down the middle....

but most of their reviews are.....the albums is good, but the only problem is the albums is bad. the artist is x, but the artist is y.....

required hipster posturing: its okay to like an album/artist, but you have to leave a backdoor in case some else thinks its suck...cuz you have to be able to say it is suck more....


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As I have stated before, my wife is mad about Ryan and I went and bought this for her yesterday. I agree with thre review in summary, its nice to see the guy doing what he does best (country-ish feel), but I don't think its as good as Heartbreaker.

Put this next to Rock & Roll & its a bona fide classic. I find it best to skim PFM reviews and you can usually extract the info you're looking for and your head will hurt less.

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i dislike this album. i then proceded to break out all his work, and came to the conclusion - his solo stuff is mediocre- whiskeytown kicks ass.


i have been putting the damnwells disc in heavy rotation lately - good stuff


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I kind of get tired of all the comparisons to Heartbreaker. I mean, I don't want to listen to a band/srtist that put's out the same thing EVERY album. That's why I dig/dug on people like Beck, Pumpkins, Springsteen, etc. THEY MIX(ED) IT UP. It's called variety people!

If I want to listen to Heartbreaker, then I'll listen to it.

As far as P-forks review, who are they? And why do they matter again?


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I fully expected them to give it a 2.4 or some such. I guess Ryan Adams backlash is officially over.

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i have been putting the damnwells disc in heavy rotation lately - good stuff


RIYL? I saw them open for the Old 97s a couple of years ago and the lead singer spent a lot of time giving his political opions about the president which tainted the show for me and caused me to write them off. They were also listed as the "Darn-wells" for the show which I thought was funny.


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I guess Ryan Adams backlash is officially over.

They said it themselves in the review: "...Adams transitioned from bloated media darling to scrappy underdog..." So there you have it - Pitchfork is the official champion of scrappy underdogs. All others need not apply.


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I kind of get tired of all the comparisons to Heartbreaker. I mean, I don't want to listen to a band/srtist that put's out the same thing EVERY album. That's why I dig/dug on people like Beck, Pumpkins, Springsteen, etc. THEY MIX(ED) IT UP. It's called variety people!

If I want to listen to Heartbreaker, then I'll listen to it.

As far as P-forks review, who are they? And why do they matter again?


Where I am with Mr. Adams and why I go back to that record is I think he is a fantastic songwriter when he's in the country/stripped down vein. I'm all for progression, but his direction has at times seemed a bit contrived to me, and I don't think its by accident that on his last tour after Demolition came out 70% of the show were songs from Heartbreaker. (We didn't get a R&R/LIH show due to his arm injury) It sounds like I'm obsessed with that record, and I'm not, I just prefer the style of that one and think this new one is a return to form.

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heartbreaker & faithless street are my all-time favorites of anything ryan has touched. i'm beginning to think that, while he'll often remind us of their greatness, he'll never return there again.

that said, this album has a shot at my album of the year. :P (right now it's vying against the decemberists.)

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I guess Ryan Adams backlash is officially over.

They said it themselves in the review: "...Adams transitioned from bloated media darling to scrappy underdog..." So there you have it - Pitchfork is the official champion of scrappy underdogs. All others need not apply.


Exactly. Name recognition is worth +/- 3 pts.

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I may have to pick this up today.

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as soon as someone is loved everywhere, you have to hate them to be indie. as soon as everyone hates someone, you have to like them to be indie.

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as soon as someone is loved everywhere, you have to hate them to be indie. as soon as everyone hates someone, you have to like them to be indie.


You sir just made my signature!


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I still haven't heard this, but rparis nailed it. As did Busty. I would still love to hear what anyone might have against Rock N Roll..most seem to hate it, but probably because they wanted something else, then when they got that (Love is Hell, this album) well, they seem to hate that too.

I'm not saying dude isn't frustrating, but I will say that what he puts out is pretty consistent in terms of quality. there are always going to be 3-4 awesome songs, 3-4 clunkers, 3-4 mediocre or growers.

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rock'n'roll is a fun album, but it lacks the sincerity and complexity of heartbreaker, i.m.oh

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rock'n'roll is a fun album, but it lacks the sincerity and complexity of heartbreaker, i.m.oh


funny, i find most of that sad sack country crooner bs to be a put on, and rock and roll to be closer to where dude really wanted tobe at the time.

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Cold Roses kind of reminds me of Holopaw

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