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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2005 11:56 pm 
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New movie about the Zodiac killer directed by David Fincher with Jake Gyllenhaal, Mark Ruffalo and Robert Downey Jr. Not til 2006 though. This will be awesome.

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Brian De Palma is also directing a movie about The Black Dahlia Murders with Josh Hartnett & Scarlett Johansson.

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Those both sound cool.


I'm going to pull out Son Of Sam and watch it later.

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New movie about the Zodiac killer directed by David Fincher

Fincher takes far too long to finally decide on a project to be wasting his time with another serial killer movie!

(Read as: When the hell are you gonna make Rendezvous with Rama, fercrissakes!!!)


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Brian De Palma is also directing a movie about The Black Dahlia Murders with Josh Hartnett & Scarlett Johansson.


GODDAMNIT THEY NEED TO MAKE A FUCKING MOVE OF AMTAB AND COLD SIX..'

Shiv, you red these books?

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Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:

GODDAMNIT THEY NEED TO MAKE A FUCKING MOVE OF AMTAB AND COLD SIX..'

Shiv, you red these books?


No. What are they?

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shiv Wrote:
Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:

GODDAMNIT THEY NEED TO MAKE A FUCKING MOVE OF AMTAB AND COLD SIX..'

Shiv, you red these books?


No. What are they?


James Ellroy novels

American Tabloid and The Cold Six Thousand

i most highly recommend sir.

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I will look into them.

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I will look into them.


I think you will enjoy. I actually saw a lot of character similarities between these and the ones in Sin City. The Mickey Rourke character has a lot of Big Pete in him...and the books are fucking dark. Novelizations of the 1950s-70 (so far) and all the crazy shit that went down. Look into it.

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I thought you wanted to know everyones sign.


That movie sounds kick ass.


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Sagittarius, yo.


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Zodiac should be good.

Have any of you guys read Ellroy's My Dark Places. I read a shite-load of his stuff (even the LA Noir trilogy, which isn't too hot) and My Dark Places really makes you wonder how sane Ellroy is.

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Zodiac should be good.

Have any of you guys read Ellroy's My Dark Places. I read a shite-load of his stuff (even the LA Noir trilogy, which isn't too hot) and My Dark Places really makes you wonder how sane Ellroy is.


Ihaven't read it, but my buddy told me it is fucking dark.

You are the only other person I have heard say that his LA Noir trilogy wasn't too hot. Do you feel liike he wrote the same novels over and over, but adding twists? Weird plastic surgery obsession, too.

I like the movie of LA Confidential much better than the book.

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I read the LA Noir Trilogy at a point when I read about ten Ellroy novels in a row. So, you're probably right that my lack of love for it was due to his tendency to cover a lot of the same subjects. However, the main character in the trilogy is kind of the blueprint for his other main characters.

Hold on a minute... I'm talking about this trilogy:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0892966866/qid=1115571385/sr=1-16/ref=sr_1_16/103-4855707-8817433?v=glance&s=books

Not the LA Confidential, Big Nowhere, White Jazz series/trilogy. Those are definitely his best, with White Jazz being my favorite.

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Ohh, I haven't read that. I thought Big Nowhere, LA Confidential and White Jazz were kinda meh. They pretty well just retread the same territory three times.

I got into it after AMTAB and Cold 6 Thousand, so they seemed like a letdown kind of.

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:
Ohh, I haven't read that. I thought Big Nowhere, LA Confidential and White Jazz were kinda meh.

Just finished Big Nowhere and thought it was pretty good, but christ Ellroy throws a shitload of characters at you. I could have used an index.

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Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:
Ohh, I haven't read that. I thought Big Nowhere, LA Confidential and White Jazz were kinda meh.

Just finished Big Nowhere and thought it was pretty good, but christ Ellroy throws a shitload of characters at you. I could have used an index.

Steve


If you end up reading the next two, I think you will see what I mean.

The whole "him" thing in Big Nowhere, becomes "The Kasfejians" in white Jazz, and they all pretty much revolve around buried secrets and plastic surgery. Wherese Cold 6 is a continuation of AmTab, and so repetitiveness is expected, these are supposed to be independent of each other. Not bad, but i am surprised he was popular for these novels alone.

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