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I know people here like it, but I think MIA is a steamin pile of shit.


Oh god yes.

I like that Eels record, though.

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Fannypack got a 79 but Van Morrison a 72.

Funny, funny.


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Phil Spoon, 17.55 PPD Wrote:
I was being facetious about the whistling. Bird does sound like Buckley, though he doesn't go hell-for-broke vocally the way Buckley did.

I think the emotional contexts of Buckley, Wainwright and Bird are quite different, though. Wainwright is showy, theatrical and self-absorbed (and nasal). Buckley was raw and searing, but with an incredibly range. Bird is clever, intellectual, emotionally detached and genre-hopping.

I was pretty certain you were being facetious on the whistling, but I thought, might as well respond to it just in case...

I guess I'm just resisting wistful, ironic music right now and picking on Bird for the wrong reasons. Sometimes "Tables and Chairs" is just what I'm in the mood for, and other times I roll my eyes and move on. "Sovay" and "Measuring Cups" are pretty good all the time, though.


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I like that Eels record, though.


I like alot of songs on it, but I find it hard to stick with it for more than 3 songs at a time.


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top 30 metas with a chance at my shmoo poll:

"the mysterious production of eggs" andrew bird
"gimme fiction" spoon
"i'm wide awake, it's morning" bright eyes
"picaresque" the decemberists
"silent alarm" bloc party

haven't yet heard, but intend to:

"i am a bird now" antony and the johnsons
"be" common

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the books - not as good as other releases



I was just thinking this the other day.

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Phil Spoon, 17.63 PPD Wrote:
Fannypack got a 79 but Van Morrison a 72.

Funny, funny.

Could you have picked two more random records to compare?

Do you want every fairly decent albumby an artist that ended its peak 30 years ago to be the most heralded record of the year? And you don't think there is room for bands that just want to get people on their feet in the clubs?


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Antony & the Johnsons is surprising at no 1, i would have thought MIA would be there all year.


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Antony & the Johnsons is surprising at no 1, i would have thought MIA would be there all year.


hipster backlash dude

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Yeah, is it really possible to dislike a vulnerable crossdresser that sings earnest acoustic ballads completely lacking pretension? It seems like the perfect counterpoint to M.I.A.'s overhyping.


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du&sku Wrote:
Phil Spoon, 17.63 PPD Wrote:
Fannypack got a 79 but Van Morrison a 72.

Funny, funny.

Could you have picked two more random records to compare?

Do you want every fairly decent albumby an artist that ended its peak 30 years ago to be the most heralded record of the year? And you don't think there is room for bands that just want to get people on their feet in the clubs?


Well, to begin with, it's far more than "a fairly decent album" and Van absolutely did not end his creative peak 30 years ago. Secondly, Fannypack don't merit a 79. A 54 maybe.

You can add ideas into my posts that aren't there if you want, but they aren't there. I never typed anything like what you're suggesting.


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don't know what took 'em so long, but okkervil river's new album was added and automatically took its 90 avg score to #1

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du&sku Wrote:
OK, so Andrew Bird uses his voice in a notably different context than Rufus or Jeff. But you don't think there are times when his voice sounds eerily like Jeff, and others that recall Wainwright's most famous stylings to a T? Do you think his voice would have had that same tonal quality and melodic style if RW and JB never released records?

And just because he adds whistling doesn't mean he's doing something entirely new. It's halfway between an accoutrement and a gimmick, IMO, not the motivation of the music.


I hear zero similarities between Buckley & Bird. I don't think I've ever listened To Rufus Wainwright but I'm pretty sure that Bird's been around longer than Rufus so if one were an imitator of the other you'd have the relationship wrong.

That said, the new Andrew Bird is by far his worst and is highly overrated.


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