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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2169007

Report: Palmeiro says teammate gave him substanceESPN.com news services


Rafael Palmeiro reportedly told a three-member baseball arbitration panel that a teammate gave him a substance that might be responsible for his positive steroid test, a source told the Baltimore Sun.


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A second source told the Sun that Palmeiro named the teammate when he presented his defense when appealing his suspension. However, a source told the newspaper that while he told the panel that he had received a substance from a teammate, he didn't make the case that the substance in question caused his positive test result.

The House Committee on Government Reform is investigating whether Palmeiro's statements to the panel have merit, the Sun reported, by interviewing people, including members of the Orioles such as Palmeiro himself and the team's head trainer, Richie Bancells.

Bancells confirmed to the newspaper that he had spoken to the committee.

The baseball arbitration panel denied Palmeiro's appeal, saying he failed to establish the positive test result was not his fault.

Baseball suspended Palmeiro for 10 days and the House committee is now examining arbitration hearing transcripts to determine whether Palmeiro lied to Congress when he testified he had never taken steroids.

Palmeiro stood by his statements to Congress, saying he didn't know what caused the test result.

Earlier this month, the Baltimore Sun reported that the House committee is uncertain whether there is enough evidence to refer the case to the Justice Department. However, the committee is considering several other options.

One scenario, officials familiar with the situation told the Sun, has the committee making the documents pertaining to Palmeiro's case public. The committee received the documents related to the first baseman's positive steroid test from Major League Baseball on Aug. 12. A document release could happen in the next two weeks and would allow the public to decide for itself about Palmeiro.

The documents include the results of Palmeiro's tests, the tests' dates and the record of secret proceedings before a three-member arbitration panel after Palmeiro appealed the results. The appeal was denied, and the documents would show how Palmeiro defended himself while not offering an explanation as to how the steroid entered his system.

The committee has also not ruled out sending the case to the Justice Department, which could bring a perjury charge against Palmeiro. But the Sun reported that that option is less likely than others because of the difficulty of proving Palmeiro had knowingly used the drug when he appeared before Congress.

Palmeiro said that he would never take a performance-enhancing substance intentionally after he tested positive for the steroid stanozolol. However, experts have said that is is unlikely stanozolol could have entered his system by accident. Palmeiro said he won't comment publicly on the matter until Congress finishes its review.

A congressional source familiar with the committee's work, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing, said several active players have spoken or will speak with the committee. That source would not identify who was interviewed.

But Colorado Rockies outfielder Jorge Piedra told The Associated Press that he spoke on the phone with the committee. He said investigators contacted him through his agent about a week ago, found out "all they wanted to know" in a matter of minutes and didn't plan to contact him again.

Piedra, the second player publicly identified under the sport's new steroid rules when he was suspended for 10 days in April, said the committee "had a few questions and I just answered them honestly."

"I told them I didn't have anything to do with Palmeiro," Piedra said after the Rockies played the Padres in Denver. "We only worked out a few times together."

The congressional source indicated that all the players asked to talk to the committee recently were chosen because they have relationships with Palmeiro -- such as teammates or workout partners -- and could have knowledge about whether he might have used steroids before his testimony.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

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hmmm was there an Orioles player that was showing incredible power for part of the year...power he had never shown before and power you wouldn't expect from someone of his size...and then this player's production fell off dramatically about halfway through the year...hmmmm or maybe a couple old guys that had been hitting a lot of home runs over the past few years but have been very injury prone lately and have had their power numbers drop way off? hmmm.

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hmmm was there an Orioles player that was showing incredible power for part of the year...power he had never shown before and power you wouldn't expect from someone of his size...and then this player's production fell off dramatically about halfway through the year...hmmmm or maybe a couple old guys that had been hitting a lot of home runs over the past few years but have been very injury prone lately and have had their power numbers drop way off? hmmm.


Damn you, Rodney, don't you dog Brian Roberts like that. Boy plays hard, and despite his flash of power, he still only hit 18 HR.

It's obvious the answer is Sidney Ponson. First of all, he finished that year up in San Francisco, so it's obvious Barry hooked him up with not only the Cream but the Clear, and Sidney brought that junk back to Charm City. Secondly, no professional athlete can get that FAT without chemical help. Thirdly, it was Roid Rage that made him punch that judge.

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maybe roberts gave him a hand job using the "clear" and raffy thought it was vaseline.

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It's obvious the answer is Sidney Ponson.


The article sez the mystery person gave him a "substance" - not fudge.


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rparis74 Wrote:
maybe roberts gave him a hand job using the "clear" and raffy thought it was vaseline.


[img][333:500]http://static.flickr.com/25/45611737_9a114b048c_o.jpg[/img]

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I love the demise of Sammy Sosa , since we talkin Baltimore.....

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I love the demise of Sammy Sosa , since we talkin Baltimore.....


Such a stupid move. The team is run by morons.

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http://itsasecretsohush.blogspot.com/

pretty awesome

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http://itsasecretsohush.blogspot.com/

pretty awesome


not too shabby..... but like Page 6.. most of it is probably BS.

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DiggityDawg Wrote:
Elvis Fu Wrote:
It's obvious the answer is Sidney Ponson.


The article sez the mystery person gave him a "substance" - not fudge.


I think that Sir Sidney ingested mushrooms one nite and went on a syringe-wielding rampage and shot Palmeiro full of steroids. Then, Sid caught the first plane - nay, he chartered a private jet - to Aruba, where he killed Natalee Holloway; he's been lucky so far to pin that on Joran van der Sloot... I don't think Raffy and MLB are as ineffectual as some "distraught" hussy from Alabama and colonial tribunals though, so the long arm of the straw might get to Pons on this other one.


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ESPN is reporting that Palmeiro named Tejada as the player before the panel today.

Scumbag.

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ESPN is reporting that Palmeiro named Tejada as the player before the panel today.

Scumbag.


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Who will have suffered the stronger black-list, when we look back on things in fifteen years - Jim Bouton or Rafael Palmeiro?

(TwilightKid, think about this before you answer.)


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