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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:37 am 
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he's in the top 20 all time total yards as a reciever AND running back.

he's the only RB in the top 20 recievers.


http://www.profootballhof.com/history/r ... se_id=1403

http://www.profootballhof.com/history/r ... se_id=1402

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Best running back of his generation. Tomlinson and Edge will be up there in the conversation.


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No one looks the part of a NFL athelete less than Marshall Faulk.

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I like Marshall, but he couldn't hold Roger Craig's jock....

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SenatorLooGAR's #9 Scream Wrote:
I like Marshall, but he couldn't hold Roger Craig's jock....


Oh my god.


Roger did have Joe Montana, lets not forget. Marshalls been tormented by having to play with Jim Harbaughs and Marc Bulgers.


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Billy The Clonosaurus Wrote:
SenatorLooGAR's #9 Scream Wrote:
I like Marshall, but he couldn't hold Roger Craig's jock....


Oh my god.


Roger did have Joe Montana, lets not forget. Marshalls been tormented by having to play with Jim Harbaughs and Marc Bulgers.


About the same talent wise, I would surmise. I was really just saying that many of these pass catching backs owe their styles to Roger...and Roger was a BAAAAAAD motherfucker. Ask yourself: were Roger Craig, Jerry Rice,Brent Jones et al better because of JoMO and Steve Young, or were JoMO and Steve Young made great by the folks around them?

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Yeah, and Peyton Manning and Kurt Warner both sucked when they played with Faulk. ;)

By the same token, Montana had Roger, Rice, et al. As much as the word "synergy" is despised, the Bill Walsh 'Niners are a perfect example of it. Rice is the only player that's going to perform as well outside that system.

Faulk vs. Craig? Close, but Faulk gets the nod.


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looking at the rushing list just makes me marvel again at barry sanders and jim brown. look at those rushing yards per carry differences! and then it makes me think that current players stick around WAY too long. (eddie george, 3.6?)

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you have to go by their tecmo bowl performances. Faulk by a landslide, but Bo Jackson is still the best ever (with Earnest Dickerson a close second).


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Joey Cracked Skull Wrote:
you have to go by their tecmo bowl performances. Faulk by a landslide, but Bo Jackson is still the best ever (with Earnest Dickerson a close second).


I think 2nd is Walter Payton in the first tecmo bowl. Only LT could tackle him.

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Joey Cracked Skull Wrote:
you have to go by their tecmo bowl performances. Faulk by a landslide, but Bo Jackson is still the best ever (with Earnest Dickerson a close second).


hahahaha

bo jackson had a 80 yard TD rush in him every time.

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oldghoulishlee Wrote:
Joey Cracked Skull Wrote:
you have to go by their tecmo bowl performances. Faulk by a landslide, but Bo Jackson is still the best ever (with Earnest Dickerson a close second).


I think 2nd is Walter Payton in the first tecmo bowl. Only LT could tackle him.


I mean, we're talking Tecmo Bowl and Tecmo Super Bowl ONLY, then Bo Jackson wins in a landslide, but you can't fuck with:
Christian Okoye
Ottis Anderson
Thurman Thomas

And then there's the ever classic having one guy score all your touchdowns in a season. I used to do it with Jerry Rice.

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SenatorLooGAR's #9 Scream Wrote:
I mean, we're talking Tecmo Bowl and Tecmo Super Bowl ONLY, then Bo Jackson wins in a landslide, but you can't fuck with:
Christian Okoye
i don't think that i ever played as the chiefs. Was barry word equally as nasty or was it all THE NIGERIAN NIGHTMARE?


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Joey Cracked Skull Wrote:
SenatorLooGAR's #9 Scream Wrote:
I mean, we're talking Tecmo Bowl and Tecmo Super Bowl ONLY, then Bo Jackson wins in a landslide, but you can't fuck with:
Christian Okoye
i don't think that i ever played as the chiefs. Was barry word equally as nasty or was it all THE NIGERIAN NIGHTMARE?


Being as I lived out there when Super Bowl came out, and they had Derrick Thomas (a C grade LT) I played with them a lot. Word was like Marcus Allen...good but not the equal of the NN.

deBerg was the problem...hell I still hold that if he hadn't been injured for the 1991 playoffs the Chiefs could've gone all the way (then I remember their coach was Schottenheimer, and just shut up))

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SenatorLooGAR's #9 Scream Wrote:
deBerg was the problem...hell I still hold that if he hadn't been injured for the 1991 playoffs the Chiefs could've gone all the way (then I remember their coach was Schottenheimer, and just shut up))
was this before or after the montana tenure? i remember being in high school and this thugish white guy with the wispy Camaro moustache (you know the moustache i'm talking about- is there a term for this?) on the basketball team, who in the interest of full disclosure was a lot better than me and i was never going to supplant his spot anyway, had a red chief's starter jacket when everone had black raiders or white sox ones, and i though "man, that dude is COOL."


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Joey Cracked Skull Wrote:
was this before or after the montana tenure? i remember being in high school and this thugish white guy with the wispy Camaro moustache (you know the moustache i'm talking about- is there a term for this?) on the basketball team, who in the interest of full disclosure was a lot better than me and i was never going to supplant his spot anyway, had a red chief's starter jacket when everone had black raiders or white sox ones, and i though "man, that dude is COOL."[/quote]
Before. And, we called them 'Beudoins' in HS - only Aaron Beudoin could grow/wear/fashion his p-fuzz lip guard.


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Joey Cracked Skull Wrote:
i remember being in high school and this thugish white guy with the wispy Camaro moustache (you know the moustache i'm talking about- is there a term for this?)


I believe that's known as the "Southlake Mall Mustache" in these parts.

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Joey Cracked Skull Wrote:
SenatorLooGAR's #9 Scream Wrote:
deBerg was the problem...hell I still hold that if he hadn't been injured for the 1991 playoffs the Chiefs could've gone all the way (then I remember their coach was Schottenheimer, and just shut up))
was this before or after the montana tenure? i remember being in high school and this thugish white guy with the wispy Camaro moustache (you know the moustache i'm talking about- is there a term for this?) on the basketball team, who in the interest of full disclosure was a lot better than me and i was never going to supplant his spot anyway, had a red chief's starter jacket when everone had black raiders or white sox ones, and i though "man, that dude is COOL."

Before. Montana started for the Chiefs in 1994...

And I believe Camaro Mustache IS acceptable..I knew exactly what you meant.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Oh and Dave: Sorry to shatter all of our 5AM conversations about Pro Football, but Faulk IS better than Craig.

Roger Craig is simply the most underrated player to EVER play. EVER.

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