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Whereas I tend to think those "sketchy" songs are some of their best, particularly the slower, more ambient ones on albums like Unforgettable Fire and The Joshua Tree.

But then I used to have a college show called "October," so that's where I'm coming from.


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U2 know how to sequence the hell out of the first half of their records, but things usually go sour (or at least sketchy) on side B. Their classic records, like JT, Achtung, Boy are good because they had enough worthy songs to fill out the last half and don't seem as front-loaded. This is a band that should only release EPs.

Without "Streets" as an opener, though, the record would be a lot different and I don't think as universally loved. Such a great, great track 1. Always kills live, too.


Their last couple records have some phenomenally bad songs in the 6-12 position.


Put the Krylon can down and step away from the gas leak.

The second half may take longer to reveal itself, but Red Hill, In God's Country and Trip Through Your Wires may be there best 3 song sequence.

And I don't get the love for Bullet the Blue Sky, but to each there own.

And Rattle & Hum is probably my favorite of all their rekkids, so that's where I'm comin from :shock:

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Sen. Lost Highway LooGAR Wrote:
And I don't get the love for Bullet the Blue Sky, but to each there own.

And Rattle & Hum is probably my favorite of all their rekkids, so that's where I'm comin from



This from a Stones fanatic? It is politics, and a crunchy head-banging riff...

Rattle and Hum is under-rated, I agree.

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Bono is my problem with U2. Also, the fact that that they have released tons o' shit the last 15 years. I was bought up on 80's U2, New Order and Talking Heads (my dad's favourite bands), and while I love the other two, U2 have done too much embarrassing shit for me to listen to them.

I actually quite like Edge's guitar playing, and Eno's production. If someone could edit out Bono and leave an instrumental disc id be happy.

Don't remember 'Bullet The Blue Sky', could someone YSI it so I could hear it?


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'One Tree Hill' is great though, but only because the hill is right in the middle of Auckland


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Huh. So this thread.

A Side wins.

Achtung Baby's still my favorite, but I suspect that's an age thing - my U2 fandom started to peak when it came out. Just too many "Kev. growing up" memories and associations with AB to even remotely be objective.


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Sen. Lost Highway LooGAR Wrote:
Put the Krylon can down and step away from the gas leak.

The second half may take longer to reveal itself, but Red Hill, In God's Country and Trip Through Your Wires may be there best 3 song sequence.

And I don't get the love for Bullet the Blue Sky, but to each there own.

And Rattle & Hum is probably my favorite of all their rekkids, so that's where I'm comin from :shock:


No, JT's second side is great, although I never saw the songs as fitting a sequence per se. You do have a point.

I've stuck with U2 longer than rational thought could defend and I can vouch for some of their recent material, but side 2 on the last 3 or 4 records have been pretty tragic, save some pretty great exceptions.

I probably know ever square inch of U2's first five records better than any record I have.

I am surprised at the Senator's passionate defense of this record.


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The second half of Joshua Tree is hauntingly beautiful. I even thought that before all of the first half became singles.

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Sen. Lost Highway LooGAR Wrote:
And Rattle & Hum is probably my favorite of all their rekkids, so that's where I'm comin from :shock:


Hands down my favourite U2 album by a long shot.

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Sen. Lost Highway LooGAR Wrote:

And I don't get the love for Bullet the Blue Sky, but to each there own.

And Rattle & Hum is probably my favorite of all their rekkids, so that's where I'm comin from :shock:


Same on Bullet, I only like the over inflated immigrant homage at the ending to that song. Edges's hendrixing the guitar bugs me for some reason.

Rattle and Hum has got some good tracks for sure.


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I think people were pretty tired of the band as people (particularly Bono), which tainted Rattle and Hum. And as out of their element as they were with some of the material, it seemed honest.


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I think people were pretty tired of the band as people (particularly Bono), which tainted Rattle and Hum. And as out of their element as they were with some of the material, it seemed honest.


Its funny you say my passionate defense is disarming. If a band this earnest came out now, I would hate them. As it is, they hit me when I was a lad, I suppose. And the material, though it can be overwrought, up to this point, it still seemed honest. Which is why I think people rejected Pop, and why big time music fans dismiss All That You Can't Leave Behind. I like the record, but it can be seen as a "forced return to form for one last grasp at the brass ring."

I could barely listen to the newest one, despite several attempts.

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Sen. Lost Highway LooGAR Wrote:
fuse Wrote:
I think people were pretty tired of the band as people (particularly Bono), which tainted Rattle and Hum. And as out of their element as they were with some of the material, it seemed honest.


Its funny you say my passionate defense is disarming. If a band this earnest came out now, I would hate them. As it is, they hit me when I was a lad, I suppose. And the material, though it can be overwrought, up to this point, it still seemed honest. Which is why I think people rejected Pop, and why big time music fans dismiss All That You Can't Leave Behind. I like the record, but it can be seen as a "forced return to form for one last grasp at the brass ring."

I could barely listen to the newest one, despite several attempts.


Exactly - the record came out when I was 14 and I first saw it as a betrayal of the Unforgettable Fire aesthetic, but I grew to love it. And I'm intrigued by the board's praise of side 2 as a song block. Have to listen today with new ears.

And while we're on the topic, as many times as I've heard With or Without You, I am constantly astounded at that song. It really is the perfectly constructed song - four chords, no real chorus - it's all about the performance and the musicians' choices. Staggering every time for me.


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Here's the way I look at it...

War is my favorite.
Achtung Baby is the coolest.
The Unforgettable Fire is the one that never gets old.
The Joshua Tree is their masterwork.

If I had to put on one of their CDs right now, it would be Unforgettable Fire, provided I was allowed to skip "Pride," as that's pretty much the most overplayed song released since 1980.

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Sen. Lost Highway LooGAR Wrote:
Its funny you say my passionate defense is disarming. If a band this earnest came out now, I would hate them. As it is, they hit me when I was a lad, I suppose.


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I don't believe in cool.
I don't believe in Jesus....

I just believe in rock...


May you stay.... forever young. Hope I die before I get old...

For me it's the whole fucking point... to let music continually remake me, make me re-evaluate my context, and... like an adolescent.... understand how I can transform my world.

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Rattle and Hum just proved to me that U2 should not bother covering other people... *ultra-yawn* They bring nothing interesting to the songs.


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