Pig Lib revisited

Postmersh · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:44 pm

KPH Wrote:

well, first off, why exclude the self-titled effort...
KPH

I actually like the self-titled one...the ease of "Jenny", the pavement-by-numbers of "Discression", the simplicity of "Church" - that's a pretty fine album, if you ask me.

spizzle trunk · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:59 pm

i love anything the man has ever touched. he could fart on a snare drum and i'd still buy it.

Mike BL · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:25 pm

Wait a minute, what's Sung Tong? I feel like I should know what that is, and I don't.

KPH · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:28 pm

Sung Tongs - Animal Collective's '04 release.

really very quite good.

KPH

Mike BL · **Posted:** Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:06 pm

RIght. I'm stupid. I have not heard this.

FT · **Posted:** Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:01 pm

Postmersh Wrote:

KPH Wrote:

well, first off, why exclude the self-titled effort...
KPH

I actually like the self-titled one...the ease of "Jenny", the pavement-by-numbers of "Discression", the simplicity of "Church" - that's a pretty fine album, if you ask me.

I wholeheartedly concur. I LOVE that album!

KPH · **Posted:** Sun Jan 23, 2005 12:47 am

relative to Pig Lib, it's a fucking masterpiece. i'd say 7-8 of the SM songs are all pretty quality -- however, i always thought that album was *really* rushed and underdeveloped. i think if he had used the album recordings as tracking songs (aside from a few) and then sat on them for a bit..wow. classic record. but, he didn't, and i'm left debating the merits of his approaches with myself.

KPH

KPH · **Posted:** Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:58 pm

spent part of yesterday listening to SM all the way through. damn, that is a fine record. i think it deserves a lot more accolades than it got. i'd give it a solid 8.5 on the PFM scale if i were rating it.

KPH

aerodynamics · **Posted:** Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:03 pm

go listen to Sung Tongs again!

DHRjericho · **Posted:** Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:03 pm

for some strange reason i was expecting KPH to post about the Pigface album Gub. i guess the pigs and the similarity between gub and lib did it.

Malkmus vs. Pigface. Who wins? We all do.

KPH · **Posted:** Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:21 pm

aerodynamics Wrote:

go listen to Sung Tongs again!

actually, i'm moving onto reevaluaing Jawbox and Burning Airlines next.

with some George Strait throw in for the fun of it.

KPH

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:44 pm

KPH Wrote:

11 - Us
the first single/leak
i always thought this song was underrated at best. nice vocal line, the drums are straight out of 60s garage rock. it'd be neat if the bassist played with the beat, alas.
not much of a chorus to speak of, but the song sure means well.
maybe too traditionalist/plain sounding for pavement fans?
see, now this song could've used a big guitar solo, rather than these textural mood things, courtesy of a memory man.
it really gets grooving by verse 3, but still SOOO restrained. and the mix...sigh, the mix.
and...it just never really goes anywhere. good summation of the record, really.

KPH

This was the only song I ever really liked on that album. I sold it so I don't know if I can revisit it anytime soon. Can't remember if I ripped it, but I think I did.

Do you have the bonus disc that came with Pig Lib, initially? I think it pretty much beats the album, especially the first song.

At least Malkmus manages to make this stuff fun in a live setting. I never got to see Pavement, but I really enjoyed the one time I say him play with The Jicks.

KPH · **Posted:** Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:54 pm

the only time i saw him perform the Pig Lib material was opening for Radiohead and that was pretty much the worst venue for it.

i think "Us" has a neat beat, a pretty alright verse and semblance of a chorus, but that it just never goes anywhere. all set-up, with little pay-off.

KPH

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