Rock Waltzes

PopTodd · **Posted:** Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:55 am

The one (title) line in "Strawberry Fields Forever".
awesomeness.

Sketch · **Posted:** Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:05 am

druucifer Wrote:

Northern Soul Wrote:

pretty much everything tool does is a waltz, isnt it? correct me if im wrong.

it's like a waltz in 15/8 time, but yeah

That or mixed-metre, which is always fun.

Soundgarden - Limo Wreck (bonus points for five-measure phrases)

Prince of Darkness · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:41 am **Posts:** 11048

shmoo Wrote:

So what are some good modern waltzes:

The Beatles "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away"

Although it has a triple feel it's not technically a waltz, it's in 12/8 not 3/4.

Musicians would feel it in ONE-two-three TWO-two-three THREE-two-three FOUR-two-three. That makes it compound triple and not simple triple. Someone also mentioned Breaking The Girl which is also in 12/8, and so is Manic Depression.

The difference lies in the how fast the sequence of chords comes and when it cycles back around again at the end of the phrase, it feels and sounds like one again.

Russian Hill off of Jellyfish's Spilt milk would be a better example of a waltz.

Then Open Arms by Journey could go either way which is tricky, but feels closer to 3/4 than 6/8 or 12/8 because of the slower tempo and the drummer's feel.

But the difference doesn't really matter except to musicians because it affects how we think and play. And even then it doesn't hugely matter to us because if we're thinking about it too hard, it starts to sound janky.

PopTodd · **Posted:** Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:23 am

Prince of Darkness Wrote:

shmoo Wrote:

So what are some good modern waltzes:

The Beatles "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away"

Although it has a triple feel it's not technically a waltz, it's in 12/8 not 3/4.

Musicians would feel it in ONE-two-three TWO-two-three THREE-two-three FOUR-two-three. That makes it compound triple and not simple triple. Someone also mentioned Breaking The Girl which is also in 12/8, and so is Manic Depression.

The difference lies in the how fast the sequence of chords comes and when it cycles back around again at the end of the phrase, it feels and sounds like one again.

Russian Hill off of Jellyfish's Spilt milk would be a better example of a waltz.

Then Open Arms by Journey could go either way which is tricky, but feels closer to 3/4 than 6/8 or 12/8 because of the slower tempo and the drummer's feel.

But the difference doesn't really matter except to musicians because it affects how we think and play. And even then it doesn't hugely matter to us because if we're thinking about it too hard, it starts to sound janky.

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Prince of Darkness · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:41 am **Posts:** 11048

it doesn't always work that way, but sure.

PopTodd · **Posted:** Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:37 am

Prince of Darkness Wrote:

it doesn't always work that way, but sure.

I know.
I just like to keep it simple.

And, in that spirit, it is a feel thing as you were saying...

Prince of Darkness · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:41 am **Posts:** 11048

true.

Still you can divide 6/8 into 3/4 or 2/4, since the numerator is how many divisions in a measure and the denominator is what kind of note the divisions are.

You would almost never divide 12/8 into anything except four groups of 8th note triplets so it almost always feels like it's in a slow rolling 4, and not 3.

Just for nerdy edification.

PopTodd · **Posted:** Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:03 pm

Prince of Darkness Wrote:

true.

Still you can divide 6/8 into 3/4 or 2/4, since the numerator is how many divisions in a measure and the denominator is what kind of note the divisions are.

You would almost never divide 12/8 into anything except four groups of 8th note triplets so it almost always feels like it's in a slow rolling 4, and not 3.

Just for nerdy edification.

And I thought math was just for one kind of geek!

shmoo · **Posted:** Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:52 am

Simon & Garfunkel "America"

FT · **Posted:** Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:23 am

shmoo Wrote:

Simon & Garfunkel "America"

she said his bow tie is really a camera

Finch Platte · **Posted:** Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:28 am

Megadeth- Tennessee Waltz

shmoo · **Posted:** Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:13 am

FT Wrote:

she said his bow tie is really a camera

No she didn't. I said that.

FT · **Posted:** Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:38 am

shmoo Wrote:

FT Wrote:

she said his bow tie is really a camera

No she didn't. I said that.

Indeed. That's what I get for trying to remember lyrics off the top of my head, instead of Googling before posting. I should have remembered she pointed out the gabardine suit, and HE said the bow tie was a camera.

alongwaltz. · **Posted:** Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:24 pm

'Atom And His Package' by Atom And His Package is a waltz, I believe.

barneyhazelwood · **Joined:** Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:43 pm **Posts:** 100

"The False Contender" - Camera Obscura

barneyhazelwood · **Joined:** Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:43 pm **Posts:** 100

"Saturday Night" - Eagles

barneyhazelwood · **Joined:** Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:43 pm **Posts:** 100

"Sunken Waltz"- Calexico

Diggity Dawg · **Posted:** Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:53 pm

I think "Walk Away" by Cheap Trick ( w/guest Chrissie Hynde ) might qualify.

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