The Watchmen is Uber> Civil War. Talk about a craptastic ripoff of a brilliant idea. I hate Bendis. He is shite incarnate.

And if Captain America is dead... Doesn't that mean that the Terrorists have indeed won? Just askin'

Bucky'll be Cap for a year or two until Rogers comes back.

Thor's back in a month or two and he died once and for all. So there you go.

Those are two separate ideas, right? Because Bendis didn't write Civil War.

And Bendis is good. He's not as much of an original idea guy (or idealist) as Alan Moore, but he's great with superhero personalities and dialogue. His stories have great pacing and are generally a lot of fun. In fact, he's the main reason I started reading superhero books again.

And what do the two things have to do with each other? I mean, Watchmen > just about any superhero book, but partly that's just because it was the first great attempt to bring superheroes into the real, modern world. Any superhero book since then that isn't either retro-kitsch or Rob Liefield-retarded is more or less following in its footsteps.

And this Captain America thing is pretty lame. I still haven't read Civil War #7 or Cap. America #25, but killing off major characters is always a cheap way of getting people's attention. (How many people remember the "death" of Superman now?) And they've already revealed that he isn't really dead? I mean, they've basically killed him off and revived him simultaneously! This must be the quickest turnaround from death to return in the history of killing off comic book characters.

I like some of Bendis stuff (Avengers & Daredevil) but his writing on Ultimate Spider Man is horrible, to me at least.

Oh, well I've never read Ultimate Spider Man.

Just New Avengers (and related stuff), some of Powers, and that Ultimate Power thing he's doing.

Anyway, Alan Moore's done some crappy stuff, too. I can't really think of a comic writer that hasn't.

He's revealed alive already?

Anyway, I haven't read his death either, but apparently it's well done.

You're right that the death of Superman is meaningless now, but so is every comic book story from 15 years ago. The nature of ongoing comics is that everything is undone and redone. Not saying that's a good thing, but if this one is done well (which we don't know since we haven't read it), it's a shame to lambast it just because there are so many others that aren't.

Well maybe. I mainly feel like it's lame because he's supposedly not really dead according to what some people here are saying, but maybe that's not the case. Reading the article that ayah posted (which I didn't really want to read until after I'd read the comics), I guess maybe they really have killed him for the time being.

And, yeah it wouldn't take much for it to be better than the death of Superman. Still, I dunno, there are a lot of less catastrophic comic stories from the past 15+ years that have had more lasting effects. I just feel like killing Capt. America to give Civil War more weight and symbolism is kind of cheap.

And it wasn't even really Civil War related. It was just Red Skull, Crossbones, and Dr. Faustus teaming up together.

Oh yeah. That part really is lame. (I've read the previous three issues, 22-24.)

"Catch me now, I'm falling..."

So the new ish of New Avengers reveals that that was just a lie because (surprise, surprise) Iron Man and his friends are still assholes and the civil war is basically still going on.


Seriously. Civil War's supposed to be over but these guys still have to hide, are still being hunted by SHIELD, and are still in danger of being arrested. So how is it over?

Issue #7 came out. It's over. Mission accomplished!