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 Post subject: What say you, Bloor, Derris and Stu? Dawg of the Decade?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:05 pm 
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Pollack, Greene or Knowshon?

Who else merits discussion?


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On the BCS, SEC and Dawg of the Millennium (so far)



First off, congratulations to the Alabama Crimson Tide for a terrific BCS national championship win over a resilient Texas team. Since it wasn’t Florida, I was actually rooting for the SEC team this time around. It says a lot that it was an off year for the conference, and yet the coaches’ trophy still remains in the SEC.

Amid all the conflicting rumors involving the UGA defensive coordinator position, Kirby Smart and the Texas Tech head coaching job, I’ll just say this: If Mark Richt somehow does manage to land Smart and he brings that aggressive, attacking Saban brand of defense to the Dogs, there’ll be a lot of happy fans in the Bulldog Nation.

Oh, and one more thought: It looked like it actually physically pained Nick Saban to try and smile as he hoisted that crystal football after the game. Mr. Charisma, he’s not. But you can’t argue with the results.

Now, back to the business at hand. After all the best-of-the-decade lists that have been trotted out over the past week, it seems a good time to assess which Georgia Bulldog stands above all others from the past 10 years.


The first name that comes to mind, of course, is fan favorite David Pollack, who joined Herschel Walker as UGA’s only three-time All-America first-team selections. After seemingly coming out of nowhere with that great takeaway at South Carolina in 2002, the irrepressible player often compared to the Energizer Bunny went on to win the Ted Hendricks Award twice as the nation’s top defensive end, the Rotary Lombardi Award (nation’s top lineman), Chuck Bednarik Award (nation’s top defensive player) and the Lott Trophy (nation’s top impact defensive player), and was voted the SEC Defensive Player of the Year a couple of times. And he holds the UGA record for quarterback sacks with 36.

You can’t have this discussion, however, without mentioning the other half of the Two Davids combo, quarterback David Greene, who first grabbed fans’ attention as a redshirt freshman with his cool on-field leadership culminating with the famed “hobnail boot” play in the 2001 win at Knoxville. Greene led the Dogs to their first SEC championship in 20 years and back to the conference title game another time, and was named SEC Offensive Rookie of the Year, SEC Freshman of the Year, Offensive Player of the Year, SEC Championship Game MVP, was an All-SEC first-teamer once and second-teamer twice, set an SEC record with 214 consecutive pass attempts without an interception, and until this year held the NCAA record as the winningest QB of all time with 42 victories. He holds a number of team records, including most career pass completions and most career passing yardage.

Then there’s the only Georgia running back who’s drawn serious comparisons with the legendary No. 34, Knowshon Moreno. The spin-move specialist known for bouncing up and running back to the huddle racked up 188 yards and three touchdowns against Florida in 2007. In his two brief seasons playing for the Bulldogs, Moreno ran for 2,734 yards in just 26 career games, scored 30 rushing touchdowns and two more receiving and was named a Freshman All-America player his first year and first-team All-America after the 2008 season. If he hadn’t left early for the pros, he probably would have given Herschel a run for a number of the school rushing records.

Who else might merit consideration? Hard-hitting safety Thomas Davis earned All-America honors his junior year before leaving for the NFL. Strong-armed quarterback Matthew Stafford had quite a few memorable games before leaving early as the No. 1 NFL draft pick. And in just two years, acrobatic receiver A.J. Green has been simply amazing. He was a Freshman All-America and if he hadn’t gotten hurt this year probably would have been a first-teamer.

So who’s the best Georgia player of the past 10 years? Vote among the three nominees in the poll and share any other names you think deserve consideration in the comments.

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 Post subject: Re: What say you, Bloor, Derris and Stu? Dawg of the Decade?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:39 pm 
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Gotta be Pollack...



1:58 is the LOLZ

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I liked pollack a lot. My auburn friends call him "pillow biter" so you know he's good.


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 Post subject: Re: What say you, Bloor, Derris and Stu? Dawg of the Decade?
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Pollack and it's not even close. Greatest player I ever got to watch in person and that includes Champ Bailey, Matt Stafford, Knowshon Moreno, Hines Ward, Garrison Hearst, Richard Seymour, Andre Hastings, etc, etc, etc.

The guy just had a knack for being in the right place at the right time and at the right moment of the game. A game changer in every sense of the word. I'm still amazed at the shit he did. He was never the biggest or the fastest on any of the 4 teams he played on but he was the BEST.


Here is a completely indulgent exercise for the Georgia fans. From my fave UGA blog. They did best players from the decade by position:


P - Drew Butler
PK - Billy Bennett
Tackle - Jon Stinchcomb
Center/Guard- Max Jean-Gilles
Center/Guard- Ben Jones
Center/Guard-Russ Tanner
Center/Guard- Clint Boling
QB - David Greene
WR- AJ Green
WR- Terrance Edwards
WR- Mohammed Massaquoi
TE - Ben Watson (close call though- Leonard Pople, Randy McMichael)
RB- Knowshon Moreno
FB - Brannen Southerland
DE- David Pollack
DE- Charles Grant
DT- Richard Seymour
DT- Jonathan Sullivan
LB- Boss Bailey
LB- Odell Thurman (close- Will Witherspoon)
S- Thomas Davis (could've easily been Greg Blue or Sean Jones)
CB- Tim Jennings
CB - Paul Oliver (close-Tim Wansley)


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 Post subject: Re: What say you, Bloor, Derris and Stu? Dawg of the Decade?
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There are some positions I can't quite comment on, but I would take Wans over Oliver, and though BLUE is MY BOY, Thomas Davis a fucking rapist out there. He pinned dudes down and perforated them.

And, I know TERRGRANMCE EGWARBS holds a lot of records, but FUCK! If he holds one ball vs. Florida in 2002, we're National Champions. He was never 1/45 the player his brother was.

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Shit, I'll take Michael Johnson over TEdwards just for that Auburn catch.

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 Post subject: Re: What say you, Bloor, Derris and Stu? Dawg of the Decade?
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Not Greene. If it weren't for Billy Bennett during his tenure we would've NEVER scored.

Pollack was one of the last few players I remember that had that passion for winning and playing like a champion that has been missing from the UGA defense (and team in general). There are the aforementioned Greg Blue, Thomas Davis and I'd throw Jermaine Phillips in there as a heavy hitter along with Odell and Ellerbee. Boss Bailey was superhuman as well...

Man, I LOVED watching Knowshon play though and I tend to be more fascinated with excellent offensive players. Too band we only had him for 1.5 seasons (thanks Richt).


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 Post subject: Re: What say you, Bloor, Derris and Stu? Dawg of the Decade?
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Not Greene. If it weren't for Billy Bennett during his tenure we would've NEVER scored.

Pollack was one of the last few players I remember that had that passion for winning and playing like a champion that has been missing from the UGA defense (and team in general). There are the aforementioned Greg Blue, Thomas Davis and I'd throw Jermaine Phillips in there as a heavy hitter along with Odell and Ellerbee. Boss Bailey was superhuman as well...

Man, I LOVED watching Knowshon play though and I tend to be more fascinated with excellent offensive players. Too band we only had him for 1.5 seasons (thanks Richt).


Good call on Boss B.

And Jesus, dude, you ARE a fucking hater. Greene was a fucking awesome QB, with the best playfake in CFB or even the NFL I have ever seen.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

FT Wrote:
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Yeah GAR, that took him really far in the pros.


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For fuck's sake Stu. Its David Greene not Joe T3 we're talking about. He's the winningest QB in UGA history.

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 Post subject: Re: What say you, Bloor, Derris and Stu? Dawg of the Decade?
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Stu always finds a way.

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 Post subject: Re: What say you, Bloor, Derris and Stu? Dawg of the Decade?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:54 am 
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Yeah GAR, that took him really far in the pros.


He lacked the size and the arm strength to be an effective pro QB, but quit being such a fucking faildozer, dude. He was the winningest QB in CFB History when his career ended. A true fucking baller, and 1 dropped ball by Terrance from a National Championship shot.

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harry Wrote:
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 Post subject: Re: What say you, Bloor, Derris and Stu? Dawg of the Decade?
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So I guess ya'lls vote is going for Davey Greene?

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discostu Wrote:
Yeah GAR, that took him really far in the pros.


He lacked the size and the arm strength to be an effective pro QB, but quit being such a fucking faildozer, dude. He was the winningest QB in CFB History when his career ended. A true fucking baller, and 1 dropped ball by Terrance from a National Championship shot.


BTW - Back in November, Colt McCoy broke his record as the winningest QB in FBS history. Not coming down on the guy just clarifying who now holds the record.

He was 6'3" 225lb, so size isn't an excuse. Arm strength really did come into play I guess.

Apparently he started an insurance firm with Matt Stinchcomb? Why is that always the fall-back for white QBs who didn't make it in the pros?


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no love for knowshon?

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FT Wrote:
no love for knowshon?


reading comp FAIL, Bobbo

discostu Wrote:
Man, I LOVED watching Knowshon play though and I tend to be more fascinated with excellent offensive players. Too bad we only had him for 1.5 seasons (thanks Richt).


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FT Wrote:
no love for knowshon?


reading comp FAIL, Bobbo

discostu Wrote:
Man, I LOVED watching Knowshon play though and I tend to be more fascinated with excellent offensive players. Too band we only had him for 1.5 seasons (thanks Richt).


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