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 Post subject: Excitement: Stones demo personnel question
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:20 pm 
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I figure if anyone can answer this, it'd be one of y'all.

So, I was listening to a bunch of old stuff when I came across the demo for "Sympathy for the Devil". I know I've heard it before, and I'm pretty sure it's in one of the 10 Stones docs I've seen, but damned if I can remember which one.

Anyway, this particular one has Mick, plus an organ and some drums. It's sparse, and the lyrics aren't 100% complete yet.

I'd bet my life that it isn't Charlie Watts playing drums (Jimmy Miller?) and I have no idea who is playing the organ (my bet would be Hopkins, Stewart, or Keith).

anyway, can anyone clear that up? Sorry for the retarded obscurity of this question...

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 Post subject: Re: Excitement: Stones demo personnel question
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I know some of these monsters know the answer, but the board is dead as fuck.

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 Post subject: Re: Excitement: Stones demo personnel question
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:53 pm 
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Are you talking about the Jon-Luc Goddard film?

I'm not sure about the demo, but I know Charlie plays on the album as well as Nicki Hopkins and Keith (who plays bass and guitar)

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Are you talking about the Jon-Luc Goddard film?

I'm not sure about the demo, but I know Charlie plays on the album as well as Nicki Hopkins and Keith (who plays bass and guitar)

Yeah, it's probably one of the versions from the film.

Mick Jagger — lead and backup vocals
Keith Richards — electric guitar, bass guitar, backup vocals
Brian Jones — acoustic guitar (not audible in final mix), backup vocals
Bill Wyman — maracas, backup vocals
Charlie Watts — drums, percussion, backup vocals
Nicky Hopkins — piano
Rocky Dijon — congas
Jimmy Miller — backup vocal

Although it might be the version from the Black Box, but I'm pretty sure that one comes from the same sessions.


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 Post subject: Re: Excitement: Stones demo personnel question
PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:47 am 
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This one is literally just vocals, drums, and organ. Maybe some percussion, but I don't think so.

http://grooveshark.com/s/Sympathy+For+T ... RgiS?src=5

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 Post subject: Re: Excitement: Stones demo personnel question
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Has bass guitar , too.

That is more likely Jimmy Miller playing drums on that, Cotton. Doesnt really sound like Charlie.

Speaking of, I've always loved the drums on "You Can't Always Get What You Want" and that's not Charlie, but Jimmy Miller.

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 Post subject: Re: Excitement: Stones demo personnel question
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yeah, those fills would never be Charlie. He plays so jazzy that it would never work. Still, I'd love to see how they decided to go that route. I've never heard of him being unhappy about it, so suck on that, Ringo.


Speaking of Stones oddities, Randy Newman plays on one of the versions of "Memo from Turner"!

also Al Kooper, who I maintain is classic rock's Forrest Gump, plays on both of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Excitement: Stones demo personnel question
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Charlie and Bill were fairly egoless when it came other people playing their parts: Keith plays a bunch of bass on Exile and Jimmy Miller plays drums on "Happy," "Tumbling Dice" and "Shine a Light."

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Not to mention one of the most crushing Stones guitar songs ("Sway") is both Mick's but no Keith.

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I loved the Godard film... at the time it felt like a snapshot of the revolution in progress (theoretical, pretty, superficial). Loved Mick hectoring Charlie about not being able to keep the beat...


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