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ok, so this is going to sound incredibly weak b/c I know NOTHING about IDM/electronica whatever the crap the nomenclature..

anyway, I really dig Music Has the Right, and was wondering what other albums/outfits perform this type of "melodic" elec. music. I've heard a few things by other types of artists but I'm looking more for that flowing kind of melodic feel over the mechanistic/industrial type sound (I hope I'm making some sort of sense--perhaps you can see past my blubbering and kinda tell what I'm feeling here...)

anyway, I know there's a crapload of experts on this board with this kind of stuff, so I thought maybe you cats could help me out. I looked through Aimar's thread a little, but it's more of a catalogue than anything else (which is cool, but not quite helpful for me).

long-winded! sorry. but thanks!


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Well as far as I'm concerned BOC are the best at what they do so anything else in that vein is not quite of the same quality.

However if you want something Boards of Canada like I'd recommend the album 'Metamorphic Reproduction Miracle' by Christ.

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i'm definitely no expert, but i bet you'd dig any of the albums by four tet and/or manitoba.


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I need to check out BOC. Good question aero.

I've tried with this genre with mixed results. I have both Four Tet "Rounds" and Manitoba "Up in Flames".

I don't listen to either much although "Up in Flames" does have a breezy summery vibe to it that's cool. "Rounds" is a little to jerky with it's stops and starts for my tastes. Mostly I just don't get into the genre that much.


I'm curious. Where does The Notwist's "Neon Golden" fall in with this type stuff? I've heard a lot of praise for it.


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i am not a big fan of BoC. i am of these tho:

stars of the lid - tired sounds of... (ambient and drone-y)
eluvium - lambent material (similiar but warmer)
mum - yesterday was dramatic. Today is OK (really melodic n beautiful. but with scattered beats. this album almost defines organic electronica for me)
daedelus - invention (plays like modern day 30-40's movie soundtrack. signature sound hard to find anywhere else)
air - moon safari
one mile north - minor shadows

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Reviews of 'Metamorphic Reproduction Miracle'

"Is Portobello the new Detroit? Judging by the output from KFM Records and Benbecula, residents in the audl reekie's most salubrious of day-trip districts, there's something peculiar blowing through the sea air. Benbecula concentrate on laptop-generated soundscapes, and, in Christ, have an artist who's turned water into something a lot more stronger and warmer. Following last year's Pylonesque ep. this full-length affair is awash with pastoral symphonies offset by fripperies and toytown nostalgia sense memories. As more beats are ushered in midway through, subtle shades of the equally loved Boards of Canada peek through. Christ is his own man though however, having created a work of woozy, slo-mo squelchtronica for spacecake enhanced youths to squint at the sun to while grinning like village idiots who've just discovered beauty. Sigh."
Neil Cooper, The Herald, 05 July 2003

"Talk about throwing down the gauntlet with your band name ... Anyway, Christ is actually Chris H, otherwise known as 'liquid' (we think) and anyone wondering where all the good underground electronic music has gone (which isn't just a mash of clicks and cuts) might want to get off at this stop and check it out. With hints of the mesmeric hooks and smoky feel that Boards of Canada nod towards (not surprisingly, as Chris was in them apparently), this is an often stunning album. Just when think the more experimental edge will take it to the brink of oblivion, Chris drags it back and envelopes it with melodies and entwining riffs that wrap the ideas up in goodness rather than restrict them. What I mean is it sounds pretty bloody good, pretty bloody often. Unfortunately we've lost the info so if Christ wants to get in touch for an interview then phone, rather than any kind of divine intervention, will do ..."
Andy Jones, Future Music, July 2003

"Rumoured to be the third corner of Board of Canada's tangled triangle around the time of Twoism, Christ. are sure to demand similar hordes of disciples. Like BOC, Christ equally spook and soothe, creating stuttering rhythms that initially appear transparent, yet they transfix every sense with each passing hook. Its the sound of John Carpenter's The Thing slowly rescoring its own soundtrack, ingrained with an X-factor beamed in from the edge of Scotland. With this reincarnation of Christ, substitute the fish and bread with synth and samplers. Both are the stuff of equal myth and magic."
Ian Fletcher, Careless Talk Costs Lives, Issue 3 July/August 2003

"The title suggests a reborn Christ. emerging which is a novel idea considering this is actually a debut album, but some of the Edinburgh producer's new material confirms this image and it makes more sense if you count the utterly sublime Pylonesque debut EP as a mini-album. Christ.'s new sound is more akin to Autechre's reconstituted beats and corrosive audio and, curiously enough, the progressive electronics of Tangerine Dream circa 1980 than the old affiliations to Balerno schoolmates Boards of Canada. But the lo-fi, Casio tones are still here and fans of Pylonesque will enjoy much of this long player for the mournful melodies and troubled naivete. However MRM doesn't quite match the sheer beauty of that EP and there is a nagging sensation that this release has been rushed out slightly to meet the rapidly escalating demand for Christ.'s sound. Still, it is impressive as a second album and that alone is worth plenty." 4/5
Andrew Richardson, The List, July 2003

"Edinburgh's oddest, finest exponent of electronica (oops, apart from David Jack) has, at last, a new full length album, which along with some reworkings of previous material from the likes of the Pyonesque EP, brings a fair amount of fresh sequences to our ears. 'Lazy Daisy Meadow' sets the scene for a selection of potential film soundtracks. With that said its hard to review - the tracks complement each other, often merging seamlessly together, and, as I'm sure is the intention, wash over the listener taking them to a becalmed other state. Largely they split into two categories - the beat-driven almost-pop of "Fantastic Light", and the more atmospheric interludes of "Always to Play" which bridges the way to dance (yes!) of 'mk naomi'. Think a harder edged Boards of Canada, or a Tangerine Dream for the 21st century, and you're maybe halfway there. Naturally, a pun is required to round off any review of Christ - if its too much to suggest you bow down and worship him, lets just say he's back and this time he's staying."
SMcH, Is This Music?, Issue 6 Summer 2003

"His debut album on Benbecula is the aural equivalent of watching a bright sunrise through a kaleidoscope while sitting in an outdoor Jacuzzi."
Undercover Magazine, Vol:2, Doc:5

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Orbital - In/Sides
Plaid - Double Figure
Global Communication - 76:14
The Future Sound of London - ISDN
The Orb - The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld
Irresistable Force - It's Tomorrow Already

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solaris soundtrack (cliff martinez)
savath and savalas - apropa't (2004)
tetsu inoue - ambient otaku (1994)

here's a track from solaris im in love with

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whoa! the intelligentsia strikes!!

konst.--thanks for the tip--sounds similar indeed.

e-stone--you rule man. I listened to a few samples of Manitoba's Start Breaking My Heart and my jaw hit the floor cos that's exactly the kinda stuff I was looking for. I'll look into Flames a bit later but I had heard that that was a slightly different approach.

Rick--I'm with you on Four Tet--I've heard they're stuff and I like them OK, but doesnt really hold my interest. Neon Golden's not a bad record, but I think it leans more in the direction of the traditional rock context. That record actually sort of remind me of a louder Mum (at least Finally..., I havent heard Yesterday....

Aimar--hey man thanks for the track and the other suggestions. Interestingly enough the only Mum I dont have for whatever reason is Yesterday. Probably look into that eventually.

Damen--much appreciated. will take a look-see.

Blue Oyster Cult enthusiasts--my apologies for the confusion. :)

thanks everyone! and keep it coming.


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i'd also keep an eye out for dalen's mixes... he always posts up good idm mixes. i think he posted one earlier. that would be a good start to introduce you.

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If you like Music Has a Right, you may also wanna check out Boards of Canada's Twoism. They have a similar feel to me.

If you like flowing, melodic electronic stuff, I highly recommend Múm's Finally We Are No One.

I'll also recommend ISAN's Lucky Cat, although it's more synthasized, but it's still really warm, just a bit too droning and mellow for some people.

And, have you heard Dntel's Life is Full of Possibilities? If you like the electronics of Postal Service, and wouldn't mind having them slowed considerably and taking away the poppiness, you may dig it. It's really laid back and melodic. Jimmy Tamborello from Postal Service is the main guy in Dntel, along with guests.

Good luck.


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yea, start breaking my heart > up in flames

altho flames is like a big badass soda bottle of bliss, but kindda fizzes out too quickly

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yea, start breaking my heart > up in flames

altho flames is like a big badass soda bottle of bliss, but kindda fizzes out too quickly


I'm in total agreement with this one...

I'll second the Dntel and "Yesterday was dramatic" by Mum, which has a much more atmospheric feel to it than the other 2 albums...

and, yes, Boards of Canada are fairly singular in what they do... but, if you like that first Manitoba album and BOC, I might suggest checking out something by the fairly awesome B. Fleischmann or Styrofoam...

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if you're into BOC, these artists will be right up your alley, and have a very similar style...

Ochre
Bola
Deaf Center
Helios
Rod
Bibio

Check for releases on the Skam, Merck, & Neo Ouijia labels. There are tons more, but i don't have the time right now to list them. If you'd like, my soulseek list is full of new idm. feel free to gran anything: yamato

also, here's my latest idm mix....you might dig some of it.

http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=09S9P ... DTZKPFE6VN

element - her eyes tell the story [mixed 4.7.05]

00:00-00:35 slowblow - intro

00:35-05:55 deadbeat - ruination

05:55-08:45 in the country - where can we go

08:45-13:20 rod - kalico

13:20-17:41 david sylvian - the good son [yoshihiro hanno rmx]

17:41-22:34 skytree - in a merry mornynge

22:34-26:20 piano magic - the nostalgist

26:20-29:52 f.s. blumm - nie

29:52-31:49 angelo badalamenti - i've told every little star

31:49-33:02 slowblow - love on the phone

33:02-35:11 colleen - floating in the clearest night

35:11-37:38 grandma - religion

37:38-44:38 13 and god - latlas flexible, von gradleute [hrvatski rmx]

44:38-49:16 goldmund - my neighborhood


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Dalen Wrote:
if you're into BOC, these artists will be right up your alley, and have a very similar style...

Ochre
Bola
Deaf Center
Helios
Rod
Bibio

Check for releases on the Skam, Merck, & Neo Ouijia labels. There are tons more, but i don't have the time right now to list them. If you'd like, my soulseek list is full of new idm. feel free to gran anything: yamato

also, here's my latest idm mix....you might dig some of it.

http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=09S9P ... DTZKPFE6VN

element - her eyes tell the story [mixed 4.7.05]

00:00-00:35 slowblow - intro

00:35-05:55 deadbeat - ruination

05:55-08:45 in the country - where can we go

08:45-13:20 rod - kalico

13:20-17:41 david sylvian - the good son [yoshihiro hanno rmx]

17:41-22:34 skytree - in a merry mornynge

22:34-26:20 piano magic - the nostalgist

26:20-29:52 f.s. blumm - nie

29:52-31:49 angelo badalamenti - i've told every little star

31:49-33:02 slowblow - love on the phone

33:02-35:11 colleen - floating in the clearest night

35:11-37:38 grandma - religion

37:38-44:38 13 and god - latlas flexible, von gradleute [hrvatski rmx]

44:38-49:16 goldmund - my neighborhood



See, now I would have said I know very little about IDM, yet half of the songs I already liked. I guess I should look up more about the genre since I may already be listening to it and stuff.


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Dalen Wrote:
if you're into BOC, these artists will be right up your alley, and have a very similar style...

Ochre
Bola
Deaf Center
Helios
Rod
Bibio

Check for releases on the Skam, Merck, & Neo Ouijia labels. There are tons more, but i don't have the time right now to list them. If you'd like, my soulseek list is full of new idm. feel free to gran anything: yamato

also, here's my latest idm mix....you might dig some of it.

http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=09S9P ... DTZKPFE6VN

element - her eyes tell the story [mixed 4.7.05]

00:00-00:35 slowblow - intro

00:35-05:55 deadbeat - ruination

05:55-08:45 in the country - where can we go

08:45-13:20 rod - kalico

13:20-17:41 david sylvian - the good son [yoshihiro hanno rmx]

17:41-22:34 skytree - in a merry mornynge

22:34-26:20 piano magic - the nostalgist

26:20-29:52 f.s. blumm - nie

29:52-31:49 angelo badalamenti - i've told every little star

31:49-33:02 slowblow - love on the phone

33:02-35:11 colleen - floating in the clearest night

35:11-37:38 grandma - religion

37:38-44:38 13 and god - latlas flexible, von gradleute [hrvatski rmx]

44:38-49:16 goldmund - my neighborhood



See, now I would have said I know very little about IDM, yet half of the songs I already liked. I guess I should look up more about the genre since I may already be listening to it and stuff.


sweet man. which songs/artists do you already know? didn't know you were into this stuff spoon.


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I know the Sylvian, Piano Magic, and Badalamenti tracks and have heard the Goldmund and Colleen tracks. And the 13 And God one sounds familiar.

I always thought I probably was a fan of IDM since I like acts like Boards Of Canada and Future Sound Of London a lot, but I never got around to finding out what the actual genre was.


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I know the Sylvian, Piano Magic, and Badalamenti tracks and have heard the Goldmund and Colleen tracks. And the 13 And God one sounds familiar.

I always thought I probably was a fan of IDM since I like acts like Boards Of Canada and Future Sound Of London a lot, but I never got around to finding out what the actual genre was.


you should dive in. tons and tons of great music in the genre.


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I should probably respond to this thread.

But I didn't want to for some reason.

But yea. IDM is awesome.

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also check out these artists...

kettel
jonson
maps and diagrams
loscil
logreybeam
shuttle 358
proem
lusine
guardner
christian kleine
arovane
mr. projectile
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