Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ] 

Board index : Music Talk : Rock/Pop

Author Message
 Post subject: Tom Waits sues...
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:34 pm 
Offline
Major Label Sell Out

Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:35 pm
Posts: 1997
Location: H-Town
Tom Waits Files Suit Against General Motors' Opel and Ad Agency for TV Commercial

Thursday September 15, 3:00 am ET

LOS ANGELES, Sept. 15 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Tom Waits, the gravelly voiced, Grammy Award-winning singer and songwriter, has filed suit against General Motors' Opel and the ad agency McCann Erickson in Frankfurt, Germany for producing and broadcasting a series of car commercials that used a perfect impersonation of Waits' singing voice.

Waits had been approached several times and refused to participate in the advertisements. After the defendants were told that Waits has a long-standing policy against doing commercials, their agents hired a soundalike singer to imitate Waits, according to the lawsuit.

The commercials were produced in Germany, and aired throughout Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Norway in late winter and early spring of this year.

Among other claims, the suit charges the defendants with violating Waits' personality rights under German law. Waits seeks recovery from defendants' ill-gotten gains, including their profits. This action is supported by a recent German case involving misuse of the iconic Marlene Dietrich's personality rights.

In April of this year, Waits issued a press release to assure confused fans who had mistaken the soundalike for him that he had not done the ad or changed his policy to keep his music, voice and image out of commercials. General Motors (the parent company of Opel) countered by claiming in the press that it did not seek out Waits or intend to use his voice, but the facts disclosed in Waits' new suit depict an ad agency and its client determined to bring Tom Waits' unique voice to their campaign.

"Apparently," Waits said, "the highest compliment our culture grants artists nowadays is to be in an ad -- ideally naked and purring on the hood of a new car. I have adamantly and repeatedly refused this dubious honor. Currently accepting in my absence is my German doppelganger. While the court can't make me active in radio, I am asking it to make me radioactive to advertisers."

Source: Tom Waits

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050915/lath051.html?.v=23

_________________
frosted Wrote:
But, Juice, since yr both batshit and guilty, I guess s'alright.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:39 pm 
Offline
Alcoholic National Treasure

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm
Posts: 17155
cookie monster better watch his ass

_________________
Are you kidding? I have no talents. Nothing. I was very well educated to be an idiot. And I was a very good student.


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:39 pm 
Offline
frostingspoon
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:59 pm
Posts: 24583
Location: On the gas and tappin' ass
"Apparently," Waits said, "the highest compliment our culture grants artists nowadays is to be in an ad -- ideally naked and purring on the hood of a new car. I have adamantly and repeatedly refused this dubious honor. Currently accepting in my absence is my German doppelganger. While the court can't make me active in radio, I am asking it to make me radioactive to advertisers."


=awesome.

_________________
[quote="Bloor"]He's either done too much and should stay out of the economy, done too little because unemployment isn't 0%, is a dumb ingrate who wasn't ready for the job or a brilliant mastermind who has taken over all aspects of our lives and is transforming us into a Stalinist style penal economy where Christian Whites are fed into meat grinders. Very confusing[/quote]


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:42 pm 
Offline
Fluke Breakthrough Single
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:47 pm
Posts: 2469
Location: camberwell
What ever happened with his lawsuit against Lays?


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:44 pm 
Offline
Troubador
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:35 am
Posts: 3583
Location: in the shatner
Step right up
step right up
step right up
Everyone's a winner, bargains galore
That's right, you too can be the proud owner
Of the quality goes in before the name goes on
One-tenth of a dollar
one-tenth of a dollar
we got service after sales
You need perfume? we got perfume
how 'bout an engagement ring?
Something for the little lady
something for the little lady
Something for the little lady, hmm
Three for a dollar
We got a year-end clearance, we got a white sale
And a smoke-damaged furniture
you can drive it away today
Act now, act now
and receive as our gift, our gift to you
They come in all colors, one size fits all
No muss, no fuss, no spills
you're tired of kitchen drudgery
Everything must go
going out of business
going out of business
Going out of business sale
Fifty percent off original retail price
skip the middle man
Don't settle for less
How do we do it?
how do we do it?
volume, volume, turn up the volume
Now you've heard it advertised, don't hesitate
Don't be caught with your drawers down
Don't be caught with your drawers down
You can step right up, step right up

That's right, it filets, it chops
It dices, slices, never stops
lasts a lifetime, mows your lawn
And it mows your lawn
and it picks up the kids from school
It gets rid of unwanted facial hair
it gets rid of embarrassing age spots
It delivers a pizza
and it lengthens, and it strengthens
And it finds that slipper that's been at large
under the chaise longe for several weeks
And it plays a mean Rhythm Master
It makes excuses for unwanted lipstick on your collar
And it's only a dollar, step right up
it's only a dollar, step right up

'Cause it forges your signature.
If not completely satisfied
mail back unused portion of product
For complete refund of price of purchase
Step right up
Please allow thirty days for delivery
don't be fooled by cheap imitations
You can live in it, live in it
laugh in it, love in it
Swim in it, sleep in it
Live in it, swim in it
laugh in it, love in it
Removes embarrassing stains from contour sheets
that's right
And it entertains visiting relatives
it turns a sandwich into a banquet
Tired of being the life of the party?
Change your shorts
change your life
change your life
Change into a nine-year-old Hindu boy
get rid of your wife
And it walks your dog, and it doubles on sax
Doubles on sax, you can jump back Jack
see you later alligator
See you later alligator
And it steals your car
It gets rid of your gambling debts, it quits smoking
It's a friend, and it's a companion
And it's the only product you will ever need
Follow these easy assembly instructions
it never needs ironing
Well it takes weights off hips, bust
thighs, chin, midriff
Gives you dandruff, and it finds you a job
it is a job
And it strips the phone company free
take ten for five exchange
And it gives you denture breath
And you know it's a friend, and it's a companion
And it gets rid of your traveler's checks
It's new, it's improved, it's old-fashioned
Well it takes care of business
never needs winding
Never needs winding
never needs winding
Gets rid of blackheads, the heartbreak of psoriasis
Christ, you don't know the meaning of heartbreak, buddy
C'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon
'Cause it's effective, it's defective
it creates household odors
It disinfects, it sanitizes for your protection
It gives you an erection
it wins the election
Why put up with painful corns any longer?
It's a redeemable coupon, no obligation
no salesman will visit your home
We got a jackpot, jackpot, jackpot
prizes, prizes, prizes, all work guaranteed
How do we do it
how do we do it
how do we do it
how do we do it
We need your business
we're going out of business
We'll give you the business
Get on the business
end of our going-out-of-business sale
Receive our free brochure, free brochure
Read the easy-to-follow assembly instructions
batteries not included
Send before midnight tomorrow, terms available
Step right up
step right up
step right up
You got it buddy: the large print giveth
and the small print taketh away
Step right up
you can step right up
you can step right up
C'mon step right up
(Get away from me kid, you bother me...)
Step right up, step right up, step right up
c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon
Step right up
you can step right up
c'mon and step right up
C'mon and step right up

_________________
I can't drive the bus and argue with you rubes all at the same time!


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:00 pm 
Offline
Indie Debut

Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:04 pm
Posts: 1580
Location: Sri Lanka
This is ridiculously stupid, in my opinion. Did Screamin' Jay Hawkins or Howlin' Wolf sue Waits? No. But if he can sue someone over this, then they would have had every right to.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:04 pm 
Offline
Natural Harvester
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:38 pm
Posts: 23083
Location: Portland, OR
cemeterypolka in........4...3...2.....


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:25 pm 
Offline
Fluke Breakthrough Single
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:47 pm
Posts: 2469
Location: camberwell
Makes No Sense At All Wrote:
This is ridiculously stupid, in my opinion. Did Screamin' Jay Hawkins or Howlin' Wolf sue Waits? No. But if he can sue someone over this, then they would have had every right to.

I vaguely understand where you're coming from, but you did read that the agency hired an impersonator to intentionally mimic Waits' voice, right? 'A perfect impersonation' nonetheless. No Screamin' Jay, no Wolf. I don't think any gravelly voice qualifies here. That, and unless you're really bored & don't give a toss, these artists sound little alike.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:31 pm 
Offline
Go Platinum
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:56 am
Posts: 5174
Modem Wrote:
Step right up

That's right, it filets, it chops
It dices, slices, never stops
lasts a lifetime, mows your lawn
And it mows your lawn
and it picks up the kids from school
It gets rid of unwanted facial hair
it gets rid of embarrassing age spots
It delivers a pizza
and it lengthens, and it strengthens
And it finds that slipper that's been at large
under the chaise longe for several weeks
And it plays a mean Rhythm Master
It makes excuses for unwanted lipstick on your collar
And it's only a dollar, step right up
it's only a dollar, step right up

'Cause it forges your signature.
If not completely satisfied
mail back unused portion of product
For complete refund of price of purchase
Step right up
Please allow thirty days for delivery
don't be fooled by cheap imitations
You can live in it, live in it
laugh in it, love in it
Swim in it, sleep in it
Live in it, swim in it
laugh in it, love in it
Removes embarrassing stains from contour sheets
that's right
And it entertains visiting relatives
it turns a sandwich into a banquet
Tired of being the life of the party?
Change your shorts
change your life
change your life
Change into a nine-year-old Hindu boy


I love that song.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:35 pm 
Offline
Post-Breakup Solo Project
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:40 am
Posts: 3473
Makes No Sense At All Wrote:
This is ridiculously stupid, in my opinion. Did Screamin' Jay Hawkins or Howlin' Wolf sue Waits? No. But if he can sue someone over this, then they would have had every right to.


Uh...They specifically asked to use him for a car commercial and when he refused they found an impersonater. Do musicians have to call up their influences and ask if they can take some elements of their music and apply it to their own? No. That's stupid that the company did that to him, but it's even more retarded to say you can't be influenced by your predecessor.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:39 pm 
Offline
Post-Breakup Solo Project
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:40 am
Posts: 3473
Cotton Wrote:
cookie monster better watch his ass

:evil:

i will kill you while you sleep


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:43 pm 
Offline
Whiskey Tango
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:08 pm
Posts: 21753
Location: REDLANDS
cemeterypolka Wrote:
Makes No Sense At All Wrote:
This is ridiculously stupid, in my opinion. Did Screamin' Jay Hawkins or Howlin' Wolf sue Waits? No. But if he can sue someone over this, then they would have had every right to.


Uh...They specifically asked to use him for a car commercial and when he refused they found an impersonater. Do musicians have to call up their influences and ask if they can take some elements of their music and apply it to their own? No. That's stupid that the company did that to him, but it's even more retarded to say you can't be influenced by your predecessor.


Mmmmm, rough sex tonight, eh?

_________________
"To keep you is no benefit. To destroy you is no loss."


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:39 pm 
Offline
Post-Breakup Solo Project
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:40 am
Posts: 3473
Yail Bloor Wrote:
cemeterypolka Wrote:
Makes No Sense At All Wrote:
This is ridiculously stupid, in my opinion. Did Screamin' Jay Hawkins or Howlin' Wolf sue Waits? No. But if he can sue someone over this, then they would have had every right to.


Uh...They specifically asked to use him for a car commercial and when he refused they found an impersonater. Do musicians have to call up their influences and ask if they can take some elements of their music and apply it to their own? No. That's stupid that the company did that to him, but it's even more retarded to say you can't be influenced by your predecessor.


Mmmmm, rough sex tonight, eh?


I usually prefer it that way.


:wink:


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:04 pm 
Offline
Indie Debut

Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:04 pm
Posts: 1580
Location: Sri Lanka
cemeterypolka Wrote:
Makes No Sense At All Wrote:
This is ridiculously stupid, in my opinion. Did Screamin' Jay Hawkins or Howlin' Wolf sue Waits? No. But if he can sue someone over this, then they would have had every right to.


Uh...They specifically asked to use him for a car commercial and when he refused they found an impersonater. Do musicians have to call up their influences and ask if they can take some elements of their music and apply it to their own? No. That's stupid that the company did that to him, but it's even more retarded to say you can't be influenced by your predecessor.


Yeah, but Tom Waits IS an impersonator of those two guys. And it's not like the impersonator in the commercial is covering a Tom Waits song or something. If the guy can do it, then they should have every right to use him.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:08 pm 
Offline
Go Platinum
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:39 pm
Posts: 6960
Location: St. Louis
Just wanted to use this opportunity tio post some more lyrics...as I am a copy cat...

Smelling like a brewery, looking like a tramp,
I ain’t got a quarter, got a postage stamp
Been five o’clock shadow boxing all around the town,
Talking with the old man, sleeping on the ground

Bazanti bootin al zootin al hoot and al cohn
Sharing this apartment with a telephone pole
And a fish-net stocking, spike-heel shoes,
Strip tease, prick tease, car keys blues

And the porno floor show, live nude girls,
Dreamy and creamy and brunette curls
Chesty morgan and watermelon rose
Raise my rent and take off all your clothes
With trench coats, magazines, a bottle full of rum,
She’s so good, make a dead man come

Pasties and a g-string, beer and a shot
Portland through a shot glass and a buffalo squeeze
Wrinkles and cherry and twinkie and pinkie and fifi live from gay paree
Fanfares, rim shots, back stage, who cares, all this hot burlesque for me


Cleavage, cleavage, thighs and hips
]from the nape of her neck to the lipstick lips
Chopped and channeled and lowered and lewd
And the cheater slicks and baby moons
She’s a-hot and ready, creamy and sugared
And the band is awful and so are the tunes

Crawling on her belly, and shaking like jelly,
And I’m getting harder than chinese algebrassieres
And cheers from the (hmm) compendium here

’hey sweetheart’ they’re yelling for more
You’re squashing out your cigarette butts on the floor
And I like shelly, and you like jane
And what was the girl with the snakeskin’s name?

And it’s an early-bird matinee, come back any day,
Get you a little something that you can’t get at home
Get you a little something that you can’t get at home

It’s pasties and a g-string, beer and a shot
Portland through a shot glass and a buffalo squeeze
Popcorn, front row, higher than a kite, and I’ll be back tomorrow night,
And I’ll be back tomorrow night


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:52 pm 
Offline
Go Platinum

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm
Posts: 6459
Stan Ridgway did this successfully against Miller Brewing, who used one of their ads to showcase his Drywall project. The spot was more about promoting the music than the beer, but Stan wanted no part of it and won a cease and desist.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:30 pm 
Offline
Second Album Slump
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm
Posts: 2055
Location: In the library, with the candlestick
Waits did win the Lays lawsuit.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:58 pm 
Offline
frostingspoon
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:24 am
Posts: 17359
Location: cogthrobber
'splain to me how again Waits is a Hawkins imitator?

They sound nothing alike.

There's influence, but the sound and style are nothing alike.

Howlin' Wolf influenced EVERYONE, or at least everyone who got a thing for gutter voice blues.


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:09 am 
Offline
"Weddings, Parties, Anything…"

Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:50 pm
Posts: 853
Location: lawrencekansas
eh, there's nothin wrong with him a hundred dollars won't fix


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:46 am 
Offline
Hipster Backlash

Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:20 am
Posts: 2869
Although it's not the same thing, this reminded me of Fantasy records suing John Fogerty in the 80's for plagiarizing himself. :!: :!: :!:


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:04 am 
Offline
Go Platinum
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:37 pm
Posts: 5501
Location: Threadkill, CA
Modem Wrote:
Step right up, yadda yadda yadda C'mon and step right up


How the hell does he remember all them lyrics when he performs that song??? :shock:

fp

_________________
Old's cool.


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:13 am 
Offline
frostingspoon

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:36 pm
Posts: 10198
Finch Platte Wrote:
Modem Wrote:
Step right up, yadda yadda yadda C'mon and step right up


How the hell does he remember all them lyrics when he performs that song??? :shock:

fp


bourbon makes him remember.

_________________
http://www.cdbaby.com/fishstick2


Back to top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ] 

Board index : Music Talk : Rock/Pop


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Style by Midnight Phoenix & N.Design Studio
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.