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Heard this while I was setting up at the bar last night.

Uhhhh, well I guess its better than "Boys of Summer" and "Smooth Criminal" as far as ironic 80's covers go.....

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They also cover Tear For Fears - "Shout".

I'm not a big fan of the genre, but I gotta admit that what they do, they do well.
And Dave can actually sing.

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When did this 80's cover-as-first-single-from-album-for-new-buttrock-genre thing get started? Was it Limp Biscuit (purposely spelled correctly out of disresepct) with Faith? This is being mandated by producers, right? Just like the beards and baseball caps?

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
When did this 80's cover-as-first-single-from-album-for-new-buttrock-genre thing get started? Was it Limp Biscuit (purposely spelled correctly out of disresepct) with Faith? This is being mandated by producers, right? Just like the beards and baseball caps?


If we could only have released that rocked out cover we did of "Dancing In The Dark", we'd be famous man, FAMOUS.

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Once again, the satellite is watching us. Now just watch and see when Rhett Miller does a swingin version of Lita Ford's Kiss Me Deadly, just like we do, and it becomes his breakthrough single for mainstream radio.

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wait, the "boys of summer" cover was ironic? since when?


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Once again, the satellite is watching us. Now just watch and see when Rhett Miller does a swingin version of Lita Ford's Kiss Me Deadly, just like we do, and it becomes his breakthrough single for mainstream radio.


The satellite watches me and Bloor, it sneers at the rest of you gars.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Once again, the satellite is watching us. Now just watch and see when Rhett Miller does a swingin version of Lita Ford's Kiss Me Deadly, just like we do, and it becomes his breakthrough single for mainstream radio.


The satellite watches me and Bloor, it sneers at the rest of you gars.


I don't see Ben Affleck sporting seersucker suits yet.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Senator LooGAR's #9 Dream Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Once again, the satellite is watching us. Now just watch and see when Rhett Miller does a swingin version of Lita Ford's Kiss Me Deadly, just like we do, and it becomes his breakthrough single for mainstream radio.


The satellite watches me and Bloor, it sneers at the rest of you gars.


I don't see Ben Affleck sporting seersucker suits yet.

Not QUITE how it all works, son...don't get your panties in a wad, the satellite will keep stealing our ideas for you to pass off as your own up there in Rippon.

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So how many times does their jackass singer go "OOOOH-WAH-AH-AH-AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" in this one?


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Senator LooGAR's #9 Dream Wrote:
Not QUITE how it all works, son...don't get your panties in a wad, the satellite will keep stealing our ideas for you to pass off as your own up there in Rippon.


Fortunately for me, seersucker suits are popular with boys age 14-16 already.

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So how many times does their JERKOFF singer go "OOOOH-WAH-AH-AH-AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" in this one?

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So how many times does their jackass singer go "OOOOH-WAH-AH-AH-AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" in this one?


This made me laugh, cause I actually read it right the first time with that noise in my head.

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I'm not a big fan of the genre, but I gotta admit that what they do, they do well.
And Dave can actually sing.

Being one of this board's more vocal fans of the genre, I will say that I do like a majority of Disturbed's singles... even if this cover turns out to suck (which it might) or if they're asshats (which I've heard they are).


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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Now just watch and see when Rhett Miller does a swingin version of Lita Ford's Kiss Me Deadly, just like we do.


I hope you do it right in all of it's glory. I have been dreading the day when some shitty pop-punk band does it's winking cover of this song.

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PopTodd Wrote:
I'm not a big fan of the genre, but I gotta admit that what they do, they do well.
And Dave can actually sing.

Being one of this board's more vocal fans of the genre, I will say that I do like a majority of Disturbed's singles... even if this cover turns out to suck (which it might) or if they're asshats (which I've heard they are).


I know Dave (the singer) through a mutual friend. He is not an asshat, or at least wasn't an asshat before they hit it big -- but a very nice, cool guy.


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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
When did this 80's cover-as-first-single-from-album-for-new-buttrock-genre thing get started? Was it Limp Biscuit (purposely spelled correctly out of disresepct) with Faith? This is being mandated by producers, right? Just like the beards and baseball caps?

Unfortunately, I think it was Faith No More who got the ball rolling with "Easy," even though it really isn't "ironic" in the way that it's being applied today (they never go heavy with the song and stay pretty true to it - but you can clearly hear Patton is having a good time with this one.)

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i just laugh at the song and its not because of anything that disturbed does.

its the lyrics. they sound so angry and badass. and its been what? 20 years since phil collins sang:

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I won’t be coming home tonight
My generation will put it right
We’re not just making promises
That we know, we’ll never keep.



yeah you guys did a fucking bang up job putting it all right....so well that you've retired from the front lines of political activism

thanks for keeping your promise


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Mot, no hoople Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
When did this 80's cover-as-first-single-from-album-for-new-buttrock-genre thing get started? Was it Limp Biscuit (purposely spelled correctly out of disresepct) with Faith? This is being mandated by producers, right? Just like the beards and baseball caps?

Unfortunately, I think it was Faith No More who got the ball rolling with "Easy," even though it really isn't "ironic" in the way that it's being applied today (they never go heavy with the song and stay pretty true to it - but you can clearly hear Patton is having a good time with this one.)


Faith No More does some fucking awesome covers. "I Started A Joke" is one of the most amusing things I've ever heard.

I've actually heard of Disturbed before, so it doesn't really bother me that they are releasing a cover as a single. It gets me when it's some band that releases a cover (either well known or not) as a debut or early single. This includes Alien Ant Farm, Limp Bizkit, Natalie Imbruglia and host of others. If you're so damn creative and/or talented, then put your best foot forward first.

The absolute worst I've heard in a while though is a godawful Hot Topic Mall Rock cover of "For What It's Worth". I think The Used are involved in that one.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Senator LooGAR's #9 Dream Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Once again, the satellite is watching us. Now just watch and see when Rhett Miller does a swingin version of Lita Ford's Kiss Me Deadly, just like we do, and it becomes his breakthrough single for mainstream radio.


The satellite watches me and Bloor, it sneers at the rest of you gars.


I don't see Ben Affleck sporting seersucker suits yet.

Not QUITE how it all works, son...don't get your panties in a wad, the satellite will keep stealing our ideas for you to pass off as your own up there in Rippon.


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The cookies are branded "Rippin' Good", though... So maybe that is of what you are thinking?





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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
When did this 80's cover-as-first-single-from-album-for-new-buttrock-genre thing get started? Was it Limp Biscuit (purposely spelled correctly out of disresepct) with Faith? This is being mandated by producers, right? Just like the beards and baseball caps?
Here's the history of it.

Band: gives song to record exec
Record Exec: listens to song Um...that kinda sucks, can you do any better?

Iterate a couple times.

Record exec: I still think you can do better.
Band: How about a cover?
Record exec: Anything.

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It gets me when it's some band that releases a cover (either well known or not) as a debut or early single. This includes Alien Ant Farm, Limp Bizkit, Natalie Imbruglia and host of others. If you're so damn creative and/or talented, then put your best foot forward first.


As per usual, Fu puts it the way I meant to.

Faith No More... I thought of that, but they played it straight, with the exception of Patton's slight playfullness. And he's got such an incredible voice - it's very, very different from some raprock piece of shit screaming Lionel Richie over shredding guitars.

I still adamantly blame Production for this trend. If we've learned one thing, it's that there are no pure coincidences in major label releases. Engineering, people. Formulas. Quick, large payouts. Consistant return on stockholder's equity. Damn, I just related finance to craprock?

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Yeah, but this no new phenomenon. Think about how many hits in the Sixties were actually covers: "Mr. Tambourine Man", Respect, etc. ad nauseum.

Shit, I'd have done it back when our best material was covers ("Happier" for example)

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No, we're getting away from my specific question, which was the rap-metal / crap-metal trend of launching 80's balads (but HIPPER!) as singles, especially as their First single. It's conspicuous, I tells ya.






I miss Happier.

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I'm still lost as to why some of these covers are "ironic".

they are straight cash-grabs for mediocre bands


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