Ponder this. This is not a wholly deductive proof.

P1: Mary remained ever virgin. This is disputed by some historical accounts and even some versions of Christianity, but a large contingent still believes this.

P2: Some form of life begins at conception, and a child being born is at least considered human.

P3: Jesus was a human male. Divine, but also human with human frailties, hence the crucifixion.

P4: Human males have penises.

P5: The act of sex, which is the passing of a penis of a living human through a vagina, ends the condition known as "virginity."

C1/P6: Therefore, the act of birth, where the entire body of a living human passes through the vagina, including the penis, would end a woman's virginity (P2-P5).

C2: Jesus could not have been a vaginal birth (P1, P6).

C3: TO avoid this problem and still account for a normal visible pregnancy, Jesus could have been an assbirth.

Disagree with P1's ever virgin premise. IIRC, Mary and Joseph got it on afterwards. How else could brother James have showed up?

If that's so, P5-P6 become moot. Even if the "childbirth on its own is a sexual act" premise holds (which I don't think it does; virginity as I understand it is in reference solely to coitus), you could say that the childbirth removed the virginity instead of Mary & Joseph's first time having intercourse.

No, sir, I don't like it.

Meh, it might have been funny if your logic was any good. First, everything depends on your definition of virginity which you do not postulate (which makes P5 hollow).

That being said, C3 seems to be a non sequitur anyway (even if physiologically implausible).

Again, might have brought the funny if not stupid

To be fair, not everyone believes James to be Jesus's brother.

Which is fair. Still, I think there's enough of a dissent to not accept P1 at face value, that's all. Good call about C3, by the way.

lol @ you guys talikng abt jesus like he was real

There's also nothing in this to disprove C-section anyway...

also, this whole argument is like sayin if you told someone to eat a dick and he shits afterwards, he must be gay

er, go read Josephus' Jewish Antiquities

which he prbly is lol

Finally someone who gets it.

Hand Puppet Jesus is real.

<Yes, I Am. Go Forth And Spread My Gospel>

For assbirth check mirror.

this thread title belongs in best thread title thread.

Funny none of you even mention P4. YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE WEAK, GIVE UP.

I don't think there's any discussion of her being a virgin after conception. He was a virgin conception, not truly a virgin birth.

Hey, now go do "transubstantiation". That always gets them.

I seriously thought that babies came out of womens' asses until I was like 10. I remember because finding out the truth was truly a life-altering shocker, like finding out Santa Claus doesn't exist.

When I read this thread titile, things started to get all Matrix-crazy in my head, like "maybe it IS possible..."

So, it was like rape....or was she just askin' for it wearing thongs and shit?

Steve

its true, its no coincidence that assparade.com has been blessed by jesus

Everyone knows Mary went commandment.

I totally agree with this. I can't cite sources, but I thought the translation of the word "virgin" from Hebrew to good ol' English, with many things, got muddled. I think it meant unmarried at the time.

Remember, it's immaculate conception that makes it special.

That's not true - many high churches (RC, Orthodox, etc.) believe in the ever-virgin Mary, meaning that from birth to assumption she didn't get any.

Prude.

Or, maybe Joseph needed a beard.