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Holy fuck this is funny.


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Agreed. He's doing a better job than Jon Stewart managed to.


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Damn my no-cable-having ass. Um... I have Harold and Maude on loan from NetFlix... that's about it.

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God I love David Letterman.


God I hate Bill O'Reilly.


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I only caught the last two minutes, but those were gold.


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Damn my no-cable-having ass. Um... I have Harold and Maude on loan from NetFlix... that's about it.


Yr way ahead in this race.


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much thanx from colorado viewer. look forward to this. :)

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Damn my no-cable-having ass. Um... I have Harold and Maude on loan from NetFlix... that's about it.


buy an antenna...

edit: or is letterman on o'reilly's show?


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It was O'Reilly on Letterman's show.


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I haven't seen this for myself, so I'm not sure how accurate this is. This is what I found after googling:

Bill O’Reilly: “I think that the Iraq thing has been full of unintended consequences and it’s a vital thing for the country and it's brutal, it’s absolutely brutal. We should all take it very seriously. This simplistic stuff about hating Bush or he lied and all this stuff, does the country no good at all. We've got to win this thing. You have to win it. And even though it's a screw-up, giant, massive, all right, right now, for everybody's protection, it's best for the world to have a democracy in that country functioning and friendly to the West, is it not?”

David Letterman: “Yes, absolutely.”

O’Reilly: “Okay, so let's stop with the lying and the this and the that and the undermining and let's get him. That is putting us all in danger. So our philosophy is we call it as we see it. Sometimes you agree, sometimes you don't. Robust debate is good. But we believe that the United States, particularly the military, are doing a noble thing, a noble thing. The soldiers and Marines are noble. They're not terrorists. And when people call them that, like Cindy Sheehan called the insurgents 'freedom fighters,’ we don't like that. It is a vitally important time in American history. And we should all take it very seriously. Be very careful with what we say.”

Letterman: “Well, and you should be very careful with what you say also.” [audience applause]

O’Reilly: “Give me an example.”

Letterman: “How can you possibly take exception with the motivation and the position of someone like Cindy Sheehan?”

O’Reilly: “Because I think she’s run by far-left elements in this country. I feel bad for the woman.”

Letterman: “Have you lost family members in armed conflict?”

O’Reilly: “No, I have not.”

Letterman: “Well, then you can hardly speak for her, can you?” [applause]

O’Reilly: “I’m not speaking for her. Let me ask you this question.”

Letterman, referring back to O’Reilly’s examples of a war on Christmas: “Let’s go back to your little red and green stories.”

O’Reilly: “This is important, this is important. Cindy Sheehan lost a son, a professional soldier in Iraq, correct? She has a right to grieve any way she wants, she has a right to say whatever she wants. When she says to the public that the insurgents and terrorists are 'freedom fighters,’ how do you think, David Letterman, that makes people who lost loved ones, by these people blowing the Hell out of them, how do you think they feel, waht about their feelings, sir?”

Letterman: “What about, why are we there in the first place? [applause] The President himself, less than a month ago said we are there because of a mistake made in intelligence. Well, whose intelligence? It was just somebody just get off a bus and handed it to him?”

Bill O’Reilly: “No.”

Letterman: “No, it was the intelligence gathered by his administration.”

O’Reilly: “By the CIA.”

Letterman: “Yeah, so why are we there in the first place? I agree to you, with you that we have to support the troops. They are there, they are the best and the brightest of this country. [audience applause] There’s no doubt about that. And I also agree that now we’re in it it’s going to take a long, long time. People who expect it’s going to be solved and wrapped up in a couple of years, unrealistic, it’s not going to happen. However, however, that does not eliminate the legitimate speculation and concern and questioning of ‘Why the Hell are we there to begin with?’”

O’Reilly: “If you want to question that, and then revamp an intelligence agency that’s obviously flawed, the CIA, okay. But remember, MI-6 in Britain said the same thing. Putin’s people in Russia said the same thing, and so did Mubarak’s intelligence agency in Egypt.”

Letterman: “Well then that makes it all right?”

O’Reilly: “No it doesn’t make it right.”

Letterman: “That intelligence agencies across the board makes it alright that we’re there?”

O’Reilly: “It doesn’t make it right.”

Letterman: “See, I’m very concerned about people like yourself who don’t have nothing but endless sympathy for a woman like Cindy Sheehan. Honest to Christ.” [audience applause]

O’Reilly: “No, I’m sorry.”

Letterman: “Honest to Christ.”

“O’Reilly: “No way. [waits for applause to die down] No way you’re going to get me, no way that a terrorist who blows up women and children.”

Letterman: “Do you have children?”

O’Reilly: “Yes I do. I have a son the same age as yours. No way a terrorist who blows up women and children is going to be called a ‘freedom fighter’ on my program.” [mild audience applause]

Letterman: “I’m not smart enough to debate you point to point on this, but I have the feeling, I have the feeling about 60 percent of what you say is crap. [audience laughter] But I don’t know that for a fact. [more audience applause]

Paul Shafer: “60 percent.”

Letterman: “60 percent. I'm just spit-balling here.”

O’Reilly: “Listen, I respect your opinion. You should respect mine.”

Letterman: “Well, ah, I, okay. But I think you’re-”

O’Reilly: “Our analysis is based on the best evidence we can get.”

Letterman: “Yeah, but I think there’s something, this fair and balanced. I'm not sure that it's, I don't think that you represent an objective viewpoint.”

O’Reilly: “Well, you’re going to have to give me an example if you're going to make those claims.”

Letterman: “Well I don’t watch your show so that would be impossible.”

O’Reilly: “Then why would you come to that conclusion if you don't watch the program?”

Letterman: “Because of things that I’ve read, things that I know.”

O’Reilly: “Oh come on, you're going to take things that you've read. You know what say about you? Come on. Watch it for a couple, look, watch it for a half hour. You'll get addicted. You'll be a Factor fan, we'll send you a hat.”

Letterman: “You’ll send me a hat. Well, send Cindy Sheehan a hat”

O’Reilly: “I’ll be happy to.”


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On paper, probably the least combative and most "reasoned" O'Reilly comments I've ever seen. He doesn't come across in that read as the fact-and-feelings trampling bully he usually presents.

Not that I'd ever defend the prick after 30 plus years of him browbeating people, but that's mighty mild Bill there.


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I'd like to see Jay Leno have that kind of debate.....not.

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On paper, probably the least combative and most "reasoned" O'Reilly comments I've ever seen. He doesn't come across in that read as the fact-and-feelings trampling bully he usually presents.

Not that I'd ever defend the prick after 30 plus years of him browbeating people, but that's mighty mild Bill there.


I think he knows exactly what he's doing. Bill realized you can't bully Letterman on his show. Acting reasonable is his only recourse in that situation. If it were the factor or a different talk show, I think we would have seen a different Bill.

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I don't like O'Reilly, but I have a difficult time seeing how Letterman roughed him up so hard by moving to new arguments when he ran out of answers.

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yeah, it wasn't necessarily a bill-beating, but it was still fun, especially in letterman's facial expressions to bill's silly red-and-green and manger-dead-fish -type of stories.

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That was pretty weak.

I can't believe I downloaded RealPlayer just for that, and I couldn't even see the video. It only let me hear the audio. I fucking hate that program so much. I think I'm gonna uninstall it now.


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Well.....I started this thread immediately after the "Well, then you can hardly speak for her, can you?” comment. It seems Letterman kind of lost his footing towards the end a little. But I'm pretty sure he still did a better job than someone like Leno could have done.


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I enjoyed it, but I don't think Letterman even came close to Jon Stewart's assault on O'Reilly. JS is far more informed, well-read, and even a little quicker-witted than Letterman.


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I enjoyed it, but I don't think Letterman even came close to Jon Stewart's assault on O'Reilly. JS is far more informed, well-read, and even a little quicker-witted than Letterman.


I think it also has alot to do with audiences. I think Letterman held back because he still has to cater to the network and time slot. Just like he changed his show when he moved to CBS.

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It was funny but I liked Howard Stern making fun of him more.

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"David Letterman is ripping O'Reilly a new one right now."

i didnt think so at all...if anything letterman looked like the fool.

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