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 Post subject: The John/Paul dichotomy in other bands...
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Beatles fans are generally broken up into two groups: The John people and the Paul people. (No offense to George, this is just for the sake of simplification.)

But that dichotomy is also in evidence in other bands with multiple songwriters/leaders, methinks. For instance...

Hüsker Dü: Bob or Grant? (toss up for me and a total mood thing)
Uncle Tupelo: Jay or Jeff? (in the context of this band, gotta go with Jay)

What are some other ones?
How do you lean?
Do you have an opinion in the ones I've already mentioned?

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Beatles: John
Tupelo: Jeff (although Jay to begin with)
Oasis: Noel

...I don't know, I got nothing.
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pixies: deal v. francis.

on solo output alone, i'm going deal.

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John Paul Jones is sort of Led Zeppelin's George Harrison.

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As far as the Uncle Tupelo thing, I gravitate to different ones on different albums. Jay in the earlier work and Jeff as he matured as a songwriter and performer. On No Depression, Jay is clearly the talent. However on Anodyne, I think Jeff is Anakin to his Obi-wan. EDIT: Haq beat me to this sentiment.

I like John and Paul equally. To me they absolutely needed each other.

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druucifer Wrote:
pixies: deal v. francis.

on solo output alone, i'm going deal.


you sir, are smoking crack

Frank Black's solo output not only dwarfs Kimmie No-Talent, it beats the Pixies.

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druucifer Wrote:
pixies: deal v. francis.

on solo output alone, i'm going deal.


on both sides i easily pick francis. (though on both sides, deal is cool too)


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Mos Def vs Talib (mos for me)

Gang Starr
Guru vs Primo (primo for me)

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Dusty Chalk Wrote:
John Paul Jones is sort of Led Zeppelin's George Harrison.


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EPMD
Erik vs Parrish (no brainer, the blue eyed bandit)

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jewels santana Wrote:
EPMD
Erik vs Parrish (no brainer, the blue eyed bandit)


I like these hiphop ones Jewels:

Tribe: Q-Tip over Phife
Beasties: Mike D
RunDMC: Rev. Run over Darrel Mc

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Clash: Joe


Mick

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In GbV - Bob = John and Paul and Tobin = George :D
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jewels santana Wrote:
EPMD
Erik vs Parrish (no brainer, the blue eyed bandit)


Isn't the marble mouthed rapper the "GREEN eyed bandit?"

Gimme Keef over Mick
John over Paul
Levon over Robbie
Cube over Eazy
Tip over Phife
I like Adrock from the Beasties
I like Brett Midland from The Grateful Dead (Put the razor down, Bloor)
Morrison over MANZAREK (poetry, man)

I could go on all day, though I don't really care for these types of arguments. Most bands are the sum of their parts.

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gary louris over mark olson

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Newman or Case or Bejar?
(I only own the new one and haven't heard much of the back catalogue yet...)

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Newman or Case or Bejar?
(I only own the new one and haven't heard much of the back catalogue yet...)


The only argument on this one for me is Newman or Case.

I think I have to go with Newman, but only by like a 53 - 47% margin.

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Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
jewels santana Wrote:
EPMD
Erik vs Parrish (no brainer, the blue eyed bandit)


Isn't the marble mouthed rapper the "GREEN eyed bandit?".


duh.
yes.

i knew that sounded strange.

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jewels santana Wrote:
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
jewels santana Wrote:
EPMD
Erik vs Parrish (no brainer, the blue eyed bandit)


Isn't the marble mouthed rapper the "GREEN eyed bandit?".


duh.
yes.

i knew that sounded strange.


I was wondering....

I saw dude in the ATL airport like 10 or 12 years ago. I was like "Whut up, E?"
and he nodded at me, and slurred a "Sup, G?" and we just kept walking. Pretty weird encounter.

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Pink Floyd: Waters
Who: Townshend
DK's: Biafra
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R.E.M.: Stipe
Stones: even though I'm not a huge fan, I'd have to go with Keef on this one
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Lou Barlow vs Eric Gaffney

Gaffney made horrible songs, but he made Lou interesting.

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also....

Clash: Joe
Pistols: Rotten
Bauhaus: wow, this is a tough one... I'd have to say Murphy, but Ash is a damn close second
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