anyone have any opinions? my personal opinion is that sure she doesn't write a lot of her songs, but she still has more talent than madonna, pink and christina aguilera put together. no, shes not a great singer, and she cant dance very well either. however, her songs are incredibly inventive (within the genre) and groundbreaking (again, within the genre).

I liked her vocal part on Nick Cave's "Where the Wild Roses Grow." I don't really know anything she has done aside from that, except for that one stateside hit she had. I don't remember exactly how it goes or what it's called.

you know who else didn't write their own songs, wasn't a great singer or didn't dance very well.


Mr. Frank Sinatra

very talented.

my answer is who cares
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ass of the century.

i'm a fan. i like almost all of her singles from the past 4-5 years and fever is pretty decent from beginning to end. i'd say she's pretty talented and she works with a lot of good people who help her stay appealing.

She neither hack nor artist. She's a likeable honey who's done a lot of fun tunes.

she's not more talented than aguilera and probly not madonna either. just sayin.

fine as hell though.

Or as I like to call them "Pop artists".

minimally talented artist

idfuh

thank you for your opinions. i was hoping that you guys could expand what you mean a little more. im making the point that kylie minogue is more talented than christina aguilera because until aguilera reins in her voice shes little more than a vocal exhibitionist, and more talented than madonna because shes had a career almost as long as madonnas and has been much better at staying on top of current trends.

Are we equating success with talent? I realize the two are not mutally exclusive when it comes to pop music, but Madonna has charted as many singles as Elvis. Based on this metric, one might say that she does, in fact, have a talent for releasing pop songs that people have responded to over the last 20 years. In North America, prior to the release of Fever, Kylie was known for one single from the 80s which was a 60s cover at that. She's not really in the same league as Madonna.

I really don't like minogue much at all, neither do I view her as very talented. Aguilera is in my mind a very talented singer. I just don't like her music very much but I recognize the talent. I have a lot of respect for Madonna for what she's done with what I view as a limited natural talent. I certainly have resepect for her as an artist and a business person.

I don't see whatever you see in Minogue that's particularly groundbreaking or inventive. As far as "within her genre" goes, I don't view anyone in her genre as particularly groundbreaking or inventive musically. Madonna was maybe at least a pioneer in terms of adding dance and video and broad performance aspects to the music. I don't particularly care for any of it, but if you do, you'd have to give her credit. I'm not sure what "staying on top of current trends" really means or why that would be much of a good thing.

I've already thought more about this than I'd really care too.

And more than I was willing to type. But you pretty well got it Billy.

Though Minogue has been as superstar in many other countires for almost as long as Madonna. Well, five years less, but, still.

The U.S. and Canada didn't care much, but she certainly was as famous as Madonna in Great Britian and Australia.

your arguement against kylie's success in north america is fallacious. sure, the north american market is big, but its not the only one in the world. according to wikipedia, the countries that they have data for have a population of 267,464,612 (United Kingdom, Australia, Germany, Slovenia, Hong Kong,Israel and South Africa), whereas the united states has a population of 281,421,906. the numbers of her territories could go up quite a bit also if you include the whole eu and other countries where english music sells a lot of copies, like japan, india or the non eu eastern europian countries. madonna also has a comparibly easier time with labels, since to sell music in places where kylie does you need a patchworking of companies to do it, where madonna only needs to deal with 3 or 4.

i would argue that this is where groundbreaking is actually most important. the pop genre is where the huge majority of people around the world draw their music from. to be groundbreaking or different in this genre shows the most people around the world by far what can be achieved in music.

not for nothing, but what is your obsession with this skank?

well if obsession means thinking she can do more than look good and sell lingerie, then im obsessed.

Holy fuck, it must get lonely without wimmin up there in Yellowknife.

talented enough

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