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So after watching Bound For Glory last night for the first time in probably 10 years, I'm in a folk mood. Anyone want to recommend some artists? I'm already down with most quote/unquote well-known folk types so lesser knowns are def what I'm looking for. Something to expand my library perhaps? Oh, and I deliberately left "folk music" broad, since I'm interested to see how you all interpret and recommend. thx

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Leadbelly
John Prine
Steve Goodman
Carter Family

All could be classified as "Folk", yeat all have pretty vastly different sounds.

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PopTodd Wrote:
John Prine
Steve Goodman


best chicago based folk...ever.
check out cry, cry, cry with dar williams, richard shindell and lucy kaplansky. it's not woody guthrie stuff but folk-ish.

i'm not a huge folk fan. for me, folk should have stopped around 1974. there's plenty of great stuff, nobody's going to do much better and it saves everybody from listening to a lot of moody self-posessed wankering.


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ayah Wrote:
PopTodd Wrote:
John Prine
Steve Goodman


best chicago based folk...ever.
check out cry, cry, cry with dar williams, richard shindell and lucy kaplansky. it's not woody guthrie stuff but folk-ish.

i'm not a huge folk fan. for me, folk should have stopped around 1974. there's plenty of great stuff, nobody's going to do much better and it saves everybody from listening to a lot of moody self-posessed wankering.


Personal connection to Steve Goodman:
He was the first cousin of one of my parents' best friends. Looks just like his cousin. It's eerie.

Sorta personal connection to John Prine:
My dad is the same age as him and grew up in the same suburb (Maywood, IL). But he claims to have never known him. DAMN!

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PopTodd Wrote:
My dad is the same age as him and grew up in the same suburb (Maywood, IL). But he claims to have never known him. DAMN!


did prine deliver his mail?
goodman has the quintessential comment on the cubs...the doormat of the national league.


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ayah Wrote:
PopTodd Wrote:
My dad is the same age as him and grew up in the same suburb (Maywood, IL). But he claims to have never known him. DAMN!


did prine deliver his mail?
goodman has the quintessential comment on the cubs...the doormat of the national league.


No, but I believe that Prine grew up in Maywood, as well as delivered mail there.

And yeah "A Dying Cub's Fan Last Request" is the quintessential ode to futility, period, IMO. Love that tune.

Lyrics:
Quote:
By the shores of old Lake Michigan
Where the "hawk wind" blows so cold
An old Cubs fan lay dying
In his midnight hour that tolled
'Round his bed, his friends had all gathered
They knew his time was short
And on his head they put this bright blue cap
From his all-time favorite sport
He told them, "It's late and it's getting dark in here
And I know it's time to go
But before I leave the lineup
Boys, there's just one thing I'd like to know

"Do they still play the blues in Chicago
When baseball season rolls around
When the snow melts away,
Do the Cubbies still play
In their ivy-covered burial ground
When I was a boy they were my pride and joy
But now they only bring fatigue
To the home of the brave
The land of the free
And the doormat of the National League"

He told his friends "You know the law of averages says:
Anything will happen that can"
That's what it says
"But the last time the Cubs won a National League pennant
Was the year we dropped the bomb on Japan
The Cubs made me a criminal
Sent me down a wayward path
They stole my youth from me
(that's the truth)
I'd forsake my teachers
To go sit in the bleachers
In flagrant truancy

"And then one thing led to another
And soon I'd discovered alcohol, gambling, dope,
Football, hockey, lacrosse, tennis.
But what do you expect,
When you raise up a young boy's hopes
And then just crush 'em like so many paper beer cups.
Year after year after year
after year, after year, after year, after year, after year
'Til those hopes are just so much popcorn
For the pigeons beneath the 'El' tracks to eat
He said, "You know I'll never see Wrigley Field, anymore
Before my eternal rest
So if you have your pencils and your scorecards ready,
I'll read you my last request"

He said, "Give me a double-header funeral in Wrigley Field
On some sunny weekend day - no lights
Have the organ play the "National Anthem"
and then a little 'na, na, na, na, hey hey, hey, Goodbye'
Make six bullpen pitchers carry my coffin
and six groundskeepers clear my path
Have the umpires bark me out at every base
In all their holy wrath
It's a beautiful day for a funeral,
Hey Ernie, let's play two!
Somebody go get Jack Brickhouse to come back,
and conduct just one more interview
Have the Cubbies run right out into the middle of the field,
Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly
Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt
And I'll be ready to die

"Build a big fire on home plate out of your Louisville Slugger baseball bats,
And toss my coffin in
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow
From the prevailing 30-mile-an-hour southwest wind
When my last remains go flying over the left field wall
I'll bid the Bleacher Bums adíeu
And I will come to my final resting place,
Out on Waveland Avenue

The dying man's friends told him to cut it out
They said stop it that's an awful shame
He whispered, "Don't Cry, we'll meet by and by
Near the Heavenly Hall of Fame"
He said, "I've got season tickets to watch the Angels now,
So it's just what I'm going to do
But you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs,
So it's me that feels sorry for you!"

And he said, "Ahh Play, play that lonesome losers tune,
That's the one I like the best"
And he closed his eyes, and slipped away
What we got is the Dying Cub Fan's Last Request
And here it is

Do they still play the blues in Chicago
When baseball season rolls around
When the snow melts away,
Do the Cubbies still play
In their ivy-covered burial ground
When I was a boy they were my pride and joy
But now they only bring fatigue
To the home of the brave
The land of the free
And the doormat of the National League

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Woody Guthrie
Nick Drake
Fairport Convention
Richard Thompson
Jackson Frank
Pentangle
Bert Jansch
Dando Shaft
Fred Neill
John Martyn
Linda Perhacs
Duncan Browne
Mellow Candle
Tim Hardin
Sandy Denny
Vashti Bunyan
Sibyelle Baier
Eric Anderson
Judy Henske


I feel like I'm forgetting a bunch of good ones though.


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I'm a fan of Texas Gladden.

But I'm a bigger fan of the "new weird America" sound.


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townes van zant
phil ochs
garry higgins

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Lindisfarne (English folk w/ a hippy twist)
Micah Blue Smaldone (has audio samples here: http://www.northeastindie.com/micah/songs.html)
Roy Harper (folk-ish in same vein as Nick Drake or Tim Hardin I guess)

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jewels santana Wrote:
townes van zant


Townes is awesome. I almost put him but didn't because I don't really consider him folk. For the sake of thoroughness, I also really dig:

Leonard Cohen
Joni Mitchell
Lee Hazlewood
Judee Sill
Nico
Carole King

I'm not sure I'd really consider them folk either but if you make the definition broad enough I suppose those could fit under the tent.


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i don't really consider townes folk or country, but i think he leans closer to folk.

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Greg Brown
Kate Rusby


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billy g Wrote:
Fred Neill


Hard to mention folk without Fred Neil's name in the mix.

In the broad category...

Belafonte's early recordings were folk songs from very diverse sources, IMO.
Todd Snyder (John Prine-ish)
Hoyt Axton (on the twangy side of the street)
Ian Tyson's solo albums (also twangy)
Tom Rapp's Journal of the Plague Year (resurfacing of a freak-folk pioneer)
Steeleye Span (Brit-folk)
Dave Van Ronk
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These are some great suggestions. Like I said, I've got a lot of the heavy hitters of folk (guthrie, hardin, buckleys, cohen, etc etc etc), but you all have added some great ones to look into as well.

Todd--Prine in some great music. I really appreciate him when I'm travelling.

Jewels--Ochs is great. I actually rediscovered him about 6 months ago. I had bought in college one of his albums on vinyl and somehow forgot I owned it, was diving into my collection and spotted it and had a minor "yippee" moment.

Townes is great as well. I've got my eye on some used albums when I get more moolah. The doc is also #1 right now in my netflix queue.

billy g Wrote:
I'm not sure I'd really consider them folk either but if you make the definition broad enough I suppose those could fit under the tent.


Yup, did this on purpose, and as I figured the results were broad, which I wanted.

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am i dork to say Harry Chapin?
i grew up on that guy and love him to pieces.

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Nope, and neither would a gordon lightfoot nod.

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Nope, and neither would a gordon lightfoot nod.


Gordo has one of the greatest voices in the history of singing-type stuff.


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my fiancee has a Tony rice album in which he covered Lightfoot. Great picking. She actually got me into Gordon's stuff. I always just knew him for "sundown" and the creepy undertones of that song, but through her playing his records I really began to dig and admire his songwriting skills.

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Would I be a dork to give a nod to John Denver?
I know that Sketch would say "no", but he's probably the exception. :shrug:

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JD's got some solid songs.

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Lots of great recommendations in here. I would also throw Karen Dalton on the pile. That newish Sibylle Baier reissue is pretty great too...


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That Tom Paxton comp has some good songs on it...


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Look into some Fred Eaglesmith - he's cynical, hard-hitting, and tough. He'd probably come close to being a Townes Van Zant for a new generation, if the new generation wanted tough, hard-hitting folk music. But they don't, so he's just a nobody up in the hinterlands.

Try to find his song "Time To Buy A Gun" (off Lipstick, Lies, and Gasoline) for a good intro.


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holly near, cris williamson, meg christian, ferron...

She's gonna shoot me for this.


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