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As reported at MSNBC.com. Study took place at Johns Hopkins.

Mushroom drug produces mystical experience
Two-thirds of study participants rated it as one of top events in their lives
The Associated Press


Updated: 11:11 p.m. CT July 10, 2006
NEW YORK - People who took an illegal drug made from mushrooms reported profound mystical experiences that led to behavior changes lasting for weeks — all part of an experiment that recalls the psychedelic ’60s.

Many of the 36 volunteers rated their reaction to a single dose of the drug, called psilocybin, as one of the most meaningful or spiritually significant experiences of their lives. Some compared it to the birth of a child or the death of a parent.

Such comments “just seemed unbelievable,” said Roland Griffiths of the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore, the study’s lead author.

But don’t try this at home, he warned. “Absolutely don’t.”

Almost a third of the research participants found the drug experience frightening even in the very controlled setting. That suggests people experimenting with the illicit drug on their own could be harmed, Griffiths said.

Viewed by some as a landmark, the study is one of the few rigorous looks in the past 40 years at a hallucinogen’s effects. The researchers suggest the drug someday may help drug addicts kick their habit or aid terminally ill patients struggling with anxiety and depression.

It may also provide a way to study what happens in the brain during intense spiritual experiences, the scientists said.

Funded in part by the federal government, the research was published online Tuesday by the journal Psychopharmacology.

Long-term changes
Psilocybin has been used for centuries in religious practices, and its ability to produce a mystical experience is no surprise. But the new work demonstrates it more clearly than before, Griffiths said.

Even two months after taking the drug, pronounced SILL-oh-SY-bin, most of the volunteers said the experience had changed them in beneficial ways, such as making them more compassionate, loving, optimistic and patient. Family members and friends said they noticed a difference, too.

Charles Schuster, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral neuroscience at Wayne State University and a former director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, called the work a landmark.

“I believe this is one of the most rigorously well-controlled studies ever done” to evaluate psilocybin or similar substances for their potential to increase self-awareness and a sense of spirituality, he said. He did not participate in the research.

Picking up where the '60s left off
Psilocybin, like LSD or mescaline, is one of a class of drugs called hallucinogens or psychedelics. While they have been studied by scientists in the past, research was largely shut down after widespread recreational abuse of the drugs during the 1960s, Griffiths said. Some work resumed in the 1990s.

“We’ve lost 40 years of (potential) research experience with this whole class of compounds,” he said. Now, with modern-day scientific methods, “I think it’s time to pick up this research field.”

The study volunteers had an average age of 46, had never used hallucinogens, and participated to some degree in religious or spiritual activities like prayer, meditation, discussion groups or religious services. Each tried psilocybin during one visit to the lab and the stimulant methylphenidate (better known as Ritalin) on one or two other visits. Only six of the volunteers knew when they were getting psilocybin.


Each visit lasted eight hours. The volunteers lay on a couch in a living-room-like setting, wearing an eye mask and listening to classical music. They were encouraged to focus their attention inward.

'Complete' mystical experience
Psilocybin’s effects lasted for up to six hours, Griffiths said. Twenty-two of the 36 volunteers reported having a “complete” mystical experience, compared to four of those getting methylphenidate.

That experience included such things as a sense of pure awareness and a merging with ultimate reality, a transcendence of time and space, a feeling of sacredness or awe, and deeply felt positive mood like joy, peace and love. People say “they can’t possibly put it into words,” Griffiths said.

Two months later, 24 of the participants filled out a questionnaire. Two-thirds called their reaction to psilocybin one of the five top most meaningful experiences of their lives. On another measure, one-third called it the most spiritually significant experience of their lives, with another 40 percent ranking it in the top five.

About 80 percent said that because of the psilocybin experience, they still had a sense of well-being or life satisfaction that was raised either “moderately” or “very much.”

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This also just in from Johns Hopkins:

Study proves that water is wet


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Not to be a bummer, but my first MS attack came within a month of my first 'shrooming experience.

My second attack came within a month of my second trip.

I don't think that the 'shrooms GAVE me MS per se, but perhaps it was a congenital condition that was brought out my the chemicals in the 'shrooms?

An odd coincidence, to be sure and I am not so sure that they are unrelated.

Yes, I know that there are many (most) people with MS who have never tried Shrooms. But there is speculation that it is a congenital condition that simply needs the right environment to flourish. Perhaps the chemicals in mushrooms is just one of the many catalysts that could bring out an attack?

Conjecture, to be sure. But I surely cannot recommend them, based upon this.

Alhtough a great quote from a friend of mine following my first trip:
"You figure out the meaning of life?"
"YES! I did!"
"You forgot it, didn't you?"
"Um... yeah. Damn."

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<--- innocent look

Go shrooms!

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I went to see Helmet. Harvey Keitel is playing lead guitar and singing. How does he know all the words? And what are my buddies Chris and Eric doing on bass and rhythm guitar?


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I went to see Helmet. Harvey Keitel is playing lead guitar and singing. How does he know all the words? And what are my buddies Chris and Eric doing on bass and rhythm guitar?


<---never hallucinated on the stuff


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Second and last time. First time was just trails and being able to drink 2.5 times my regular beer capacity.


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First time changed my behavior also. Made me go back to the cow pasture the next morning for another sackful.


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my shroom and LSD experiences gave me self confidence
which i probably desperately needed

but i'd never screw with my head like that again

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most of the volunteers said the experience had changed them in beneficial ways, such as making them more compassionate, loving, optimistic and patient. Family members and friends said they noticed a difference, too.



Now if this isn't a threat to National Security I don't know what is.

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!


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the first time I ate mushrooms I was 14 and i grabbed a huge handful of them out of my sister's room. 15 minutes later I wasn't feeling anything so I grabbed another handful. Then I saw in the field next to my house talking to my dogs for 2 hours and rolled in the grass. Then I went a-walking through the pitch dark woods. It was awesome. The subsequent dozen or so times have been a mixed bag of dizzy highs and slight mediocrity.

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i stayed up all night talking to my dehumidifier

it was gibberish

but we had a heart to heart and then i unplugged the hard working guy and gave him a rest

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Then I saw the field next to my house talking to my dogs

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i stayed up all night talking to my dehumidifier

it was gibberish

but we had a heart to heart and then i unplugged the hard working guy and gave him a rest


Best post EVER. Sig-worthy even.


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catswilleatyou Wrote:
i stayed up all night talking to my dehumidifier

it was gibberish

but we had a heart to heart and then i unplugged the hard working guy and gave him a rest


Best post EVER. Sig-worthy even.

it was mostly like
"schmoobidyschmooschmoo shish shoe shish smoo sh sh"
lots of sch sounds

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polly: in your profile, toggle the Allow HTML setting.


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the first time I ate mushrooms I was 14 and i grabbed a huge handful of them out of my sister's room. 15 minutes later I wasn't feeling anything so I grabbed another handful. Then I saw in the field next to my house talking to my dogs for 2 hours and rolled in the grass. Then I went a-walking through the pitch dark woods. It was awesome. The subsequent dozen or so times have been a mixed bag of dizzy highs and slight mediocrity.

this kind of makes me want to try them again

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polly: in your profile, toggle the Allow HTML setting.


Thx. So turning OFF the HTML made it work? Weird.


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pollysix Wrote:
HaqDiesel Wrote:
polly: in your profile, toggle the Allow HTML setting.


Thx. So turning OFF the HTML made it work? Weird.


It doesn't matter. It just has to be toggled. Even weirder.


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polly: it's just switching it, doesn't matter what the setting is. i have no idea why that is. never could find the bug.


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i wouldnt say that shit
with the periods and whatnot

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i wouldnt say that shit
with the periods and whatnot


beh-tah?


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polly: it's just switching it, doesn't matter what the setting is. i have no idea why that is. never could find the bug.


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