"singer on the planet" apparently.


Psst, hey you, yeah you, christian...you're a racist.

And these god-squading retards wonder why they don't have the young vote.

"Pro-family" is by far my least favorite word of the decade.

Ha ha.

"I just read Kid Rock's sexually explicit lyrics and feel ashamed and dirty for even looking at his songs. If this sex-crazed animal, whose favorite word is the F-word, is allowed to sing at Bush's inauguration this will send a clear message to pro-family Americans that the Republican Party has taken them for a ride and ditched them in the gutter."

what self-respecting musician on the young side of 60 would play at Bush's inauguration?

So...who's the most anti-family black singer?

or red...or yellow...etc...

Ask yourself, what's worse? Right wing Jesus freaks or Extreme Liberals. Having spent various times in the past 3 years surrounded by both, I honestly don't know.

Strangely, they all hate Kid Rock. He should play Cadillac Pussy and then close with the Eminem duet "Fuck Off"

This is his fault for supporting Bush anyway.

But... he's a cowboy.

Kid Rock this is probably the best thing you have ever done. Thank you for portraying the hypocrisy at the top of the Republican party. You know Bush et al could really give a fuck about family values. Even though your music and politics suck I love this shit.

Not since Mr. Toad has their been a ride like the one the Republican Party is currently taking the middle class on!

As a veteran of Christian media who got out because I couldn't stomach the self-righteous bullshit, I can think of nothing better than to have dudes like Rock embraced by the Republican Party. The more the merrier because it may lead to the party kicking its morality faction in the ass or it may lead to a fractious party. I'll take either one. A better Republican Party or a divisive, ineffectual one.

No. Like most Republicans, Kid Rock voted his pocketbook. He's the son of a car-dealer -- and not a used-car-dealer either -- who grew up well-to-do, and now he's struck gold himself with his Ghetto Nugent/Goyim Ferrell schtick.

He just wants to hold on to his Got-damned money.

He could not give two guzzles from a Pabst what Jerry Falwell or James Dobson says. Rather, if Kid Rock wants to hit the strip-club with his band after laying down some phat [sic] tracks with Bocephus and RZA, and maybe snort a few from one of the dancer's ass-cheeks, that's his Got-damned right. It's his life, his nose, his money.

He has his money, and more of it than before, thanks to the 2001 tax cut, and he intends to do what he likes.

And if you got a problem, you've probably got a problem 'til Kid's gone.... (Which, judging by average male life expectancy, won't be for another forty years, give or take three.)

Surprisingly, I didn't find too much wrong with that author's points. It's not untrue that Kid Rock is sex-crazed(haha), and it is not untrue that it contradicts Bush's moral blah blah blah, and it's not really untrue that Kid Rock doesn't exactly exemplify family values, in the conservative republican way.

I can't stand Kid Rock, on many levels. However, claiming that this author's points are anything new and are shocking on some level is a bit redundant. We know where these groups stand. It may be ridiculous to some. But, it may be "truth" to others. I am completely useless in debates like these though because really I just don't care and my apathy is the only thing I feel.

Getting so irritated and annoyed over such pointless arguments brought on by people you couldn't care less about is like being shocked that Jerry Falwell blamed 9/11 on the homosexuals. It gets pretty old after awhile.

I think we should discuss the chaotic nature of the back and forth inconsistent manner with which the general body of political liberals rants on with for a change. It's not as though the Republicans or the conservative Christians are the only people who are wrong in some of the things they believe.

Venting is fine, but venting with the tone that anything Christian or anything that even uses the words "morality", "principle", or "value" is out of date, ridiculous, and lacks intelligence violates this sense of "tolerance" that seems to be such a big hit with people these days. It seems like people are tolerant unless it goes against what they personally believe. It's not tolerance, it's ignorance.

But, I am not trying to start a whole thing over this. Plus, I am sure that this response will get ignored like most of my other replies.

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Well, apparently Kid Rock has been booted.

but at least JoJo is still on the bill! i like that she's a bush-supporter, even though she's too young to vote. be involved early, kids!

I can't speak for all liberals, but I think many of us find it frustrating that so many social conservatives are just plain ignorant on the issues. It's not entirely their fault though because their leader misleads them on almost a daily basis.



Actually, many of us vent because we don't think the neoconservatives that have taken over the republican party give a shit about the bible they tend to quote and admire so much. I honestly don't believe many social conservatives who voted for Bush really know what he is doing outside of trying to ban gay marriage, and I think the media is largely to blame for it. I mean, if Jesus was around today, I think the absolute last thing on his mind right now would be to try and deal with the "gay problem." Honestly, based on what I know about Jesus, and I went to Catholic schools for 8 years, he thinks a lot more like Noam Chomsky than Dick Cheney. The problem is that after 9/11, a sort of super nationalism has taken over where if you criticize your country, you are immediately ignored and not American. I think the most dangerous thing you can possibly do is believe the state is more important than the individual is, and that's the biggest problem of all today. Both major parties tend to be authoritarian, but I don't think it's a secret anymore than the republicans are a bit more extreme in their belief in nationalism.

The reason I posted this, and why I was offended, was by the racist qualification of KR as a "white singer." Apparently racism is a christian family value in those parts.

Yet, all of the liberal platforms you espouse call for the state to violate the property rights of individuals and redistribute wealth to those the state deems more deserving. You can't pay lip service to the rights/value of the individual while calling for state intervention to redistribute wealth and regulate what opportunities are available to whom. It's inconsistent.

I love it Billzebubba! What do you make of this:
An interesting editorial in the Wall Street Journal:


"On the campaign trail last year, President Bush said a priority of his second term would be to 'build an ownership society, because ownership brings security, and dignity, and independence.' Sounds good to us. But the rhetoric doesn't square with news that the Administration may file an amicus brief against property owners in an upcoming Supreme Court case concerning eminent domain.


"Never mind that there's no pressing reason for the federal government to weigh in at all on the case, Kelo v. New London, since the issue before the court is a matter of state and local authority. What's more strange, given the President's ownership agenda and stated affinity for strict constructionism, is that the Bush Justice Department would consider siding with opponents of property rights."

If you were a Republican, I would say something like "Its OK when your property goes to the state in the name of progress, as long is doesn't go to black people," but since your'e a Libertarian, we all know that's not true.

I read that in the WSJ today. Thing is, it's assholes nationwide on both sides who are shitting on eminent domain. Damn pigfuckers. This shit just makes me shake my head. These are local politicians and people seem to be okay with this sort of behavior. This bothers me more than the Bibleheads and Taxheads.

This is a simple public vs. private power debate. In a functioning democratic society, the government is the people, not some abstract authoritarian entity like in Nazi Germany or Communist Russia. Assuming I'm a left-libertarian and you're a right-libertarian, we both agree that the individual should live in a government that represents them through democratic systems, such as open elections, where issues can be voted on and elected officials can be held accountable.

What we disagree on is whether we believe public or private power truly gives the general population more power. We have the extreme left (that's me), moderates, and extreme right-wingers (you?) on economic matters. In a philosophical sense, I personally believe that public services, and thus collectivism makes people more powerful, but only assuming they can vote on these services or subsidies. In a nutshell, I believe in voluntary cooperation through the state system. You on the other hand believe that private power (aka law of the jungle economics) ultimately makes the general population more poweful. There is no right or wrong in this, it's simply a preference of what people vote on. I'd say most people in the United States are moderates, wanting some public services and some things private.

Now, there are those who see the state as completely illegitimate, but not even Nader or Badnarik believe in that. You'd have to find pure left-wing or right-wing anarchists to find that point of view. Maybe you are an anarcho-capitalist? I'm still wrestling with how I truly feel about nation states, but I don't think I'd consider myself a pure anarchist right now.

I missed the racist overtones and certainly didn't pick up on that being the reason why you posted it. Sorry for misreading that. It is a bit unnecessary to refer to him as "white". what the hell difference does it make ultimately.

Also, to clarify my point, I am not defending the republicans. I allign myself with neither party.

And, she performed at the Philadelph2000 GOP Nat'l Conv as well. When she was eight, I think. That is hardcore... Especially considering, I would bet one of the Nebraska delegates molested her.

You didn't think "Leave (Get Out)" sprung from a vacuum, did you?

this is the problem with right wing christians:




they actually think its "bush's fcc"....facists...