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 Post subject: Do I really need to start the Arcade Fire p4k review tbread?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:09 am 
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http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/r ... Neon_Bible

I can't believe no one else is talking about this yet. You know nobody wanted to be the guy that had to do this review. It was strane how much they bashed it, and yet still gave it a 'best new music' rating/ It almost seemed like they had to give it that, as indie backlash against the p4k darlings would make them look like they couldn't pick the winners. Just thought that was ironic.

Oh, and I know you guys al think you're so cool because you don't really care what p4k says, but I bet more than 50% of you read that review before I posted here.

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The Arcade Fire
Neon Bible
[Merge; 2007]
Rating: 8.4
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Sharing its title with a John Kennedy Toole novel, the Arcade Fire's second album is markedly different from its more cloistered predecessor: On Neon Bible, the band looks outward instead of inward, their concerns more worldly than familial, and their sound more malevolent than cathartic. Angry, embittered, and paranoid, but often generously empathetic in their points of view, they target the government, the church, the military, the entertainment industry, and even the basest instincts of the common man.

While the group's us-against-the-world stance occasionally comes off as slightly self-righteous or reactionary, their scathingly critical perspective gives weight and direction to their nervy earnestness: If Funeral captured the enormity of personal pain, Neon Bible sounds large enough to take on the whole world. This is evident on the album's incantatory opener, "Black Mirror", whose title derives from a centuries-old device that supposedly foretold future events and allowed viewers supernatural insight the hearts of men. Here, the band holds that mirror up to the world and captures a malevolent reflection.

Fitting Neon Bible's more worldly concerns, the Arcade Fire have streamlined the raw, large sound of Funeral into something that achieves the same magnitudinous scale through more economical means. Propelled by inventive guitar work and Jeremy Gara's steady drums, the group pares back anything that might curb the controlled forward thrust of songs like "Black Mirror", "Keep the Car Running", or "The Well and the Lighthouse". These songs don't erupt, but gradually crescendo and intensify. Unlike the cathartic Funeral, Neon Bible operates on spring-loaded tension and measured release. As such, it could strike some listeners as a disappointing follow-up, but the record's mix of newfound discipline and passion will likely imbue it with a long shelf-life.

On most songs, the Arcade Fire achieve a headlong forward motion, bolstered by immense church organs and Calexico horns that underscore the angst of Butler's bitter, accusatory lyrics. Perhaps the most noticeable (and promising) development in the band's sound is the more prominent role of Régine Chassagne. If she once sounded studied or mannered, here her angelic soprano projects a tentative hopefulness, making her a capable foil for Win Butler's tense performance. Her contributions to "(Antichrist Television Blues)" and "Black Wave" sound like the vocal equivalent of her soaring string arrangements, co-written with Owen Pallet of Final Fantasy.

These changes aren't drastic, but they are significant, especially as they reveal new and interesting touchstones for the band's aesthetic. The influences most commonly associated with Funeral were Davids Byrne and Bowie, but on Neon Bible, it's Bruce Springsteen who appears not only in the wordy songs and aggressive shuffle, but in the compression of so many styles and sounds into one messy, exciting burst. "Ocean of Noise" shuffles furtively on a shoreline samba, due largely to Tim Kingsbury's bassline, while "Bad Vibrations", sung by Chassagne, blends girl-group and new wave performances into a darkly enticing whole. The band never compartmentalizes these styles or consigns them to separate songs, but allows them to blend freely.

Although they've expanded their sound, the Arcade Fire's transition into extroversion isn't always smooth or graceful. Neon Bible is full of clunky lyrics, revealing Butler's tendency to overstate and sensationalize. His rhyme schemes are sometimes too deliberate and set-- and no one should be allowed to use the sort of faux-antiquated sentence construction that pops up in lines like "I fell into the water black." "Black Mirror" features one of the record's worst offenders: "Mirror mirror on the wall/ Show me where them bombs will fall." Butler's words, however, have always carried less meaning than the way he sings them and the sound in which his band envelops them, so whenever a line falls flat on Neon Bible, the music, always hurtling forward, picks it up and carries it along.

Like many indie artists, the Arcade Fire work best in the album format, and Neon Bible runs on a different-- and in some ways more finely tuned-- mechanical system than its predecessor. It's a shapely work, gracefully building to fall away to build again, as the band sustains a mood that's both ominous and exhilarating. Even "No Cars Go", which originally appeared on their self-titled debut EP, sounds more powerful here than it did in its previous incarnation. As stand-alone tracks, these songs don't make as much sense, which partly explains why those early leaks were so uninspiring. The danger here is inaccessibility: There's only one natural entry point to Neon Bible, and it's "Black Mirror". Everything afterwards flows seamlessly from that song's low rumble and startling imagery-- until the final track.

Venturing into the lyrical realm of Trent Reznor, album closer "My Body Is a Cage" seems too eager to wallow in the sort of pained melodrama that fuels the band's detractors. The real disappointment is that Neon Bible doesn't end with "No Cars Go", which easily achieves the release they artfully promise but playfully deny throughout the record's first nine tracks. Not only would it have ended the album on a more generous note, it would have made perfect thematic sense as a final invitation to escape.
But despite their conflictedness , the Arcade Fire remain firmly rooted in the here and now. And even as press coverage and fan obsession suggest that the world is making a place for them, the band is still looking for a way to understand that world, and to see it for what it really is-- or at least as it appears in the distorted mirror they hold to it.


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i wont read the review, but i like the album quite a bit. i think parts of it stand with the first one.


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that's actually a pretty decent review. I had stopped reading pitchfork because they seemed like they cared more about finding clever ways to hate on stuff than to actually write about it. But this is pretty spot-on imo.


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Old Kentucky Wrote:
that's actually a pretty decent review. I had stopped reading pitchfork because they seemed like they cared more about finding clever ways to hate on stuff than to actually write about it. But this is pretty spot-on imo.

For whatever reason, it felt lazy to me. The only tracks they gave ample time to were the first track, and the single that had already been released previously (No Cars Go.) It felt like they listened to the first track, and listened to the single, and made their judgments from there. But I could just be drunk and/or tired.


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Oh, and I know you guys al think you're so cool because you don't really care what p4k says, but I bet more than 50% of you read that review before I posted here.
Maybe we didn't feel like the p4k review warranted a separate thread from the other current Arcade Fire threads.


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I'm gonna pick this up, I have not even heard a second of it yet. I liked "Funeral" but I have never been on board w/the hype surrounding this band. You are right I have read the review on p4k, but thats a given because it's just one of about 15 bookmarks I check every morning.

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I just bought it, but I have not even heard a second of it yet. I liked "Funeral" but I have never been really on board w/the hype surrounding this band.


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Album doesn't warrant reading review. Just score.


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 Post subject: Re: Do I really need to start the Arcade Fire p4k review tbr
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partlycloudy Wrote:
It was strane how much they bashed it, and yet still gave it a 'best new music' rating

Bashed it? You think that's a bad review?


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Maybe we didn't feel like the p4k review warranted a separate thread from the other current Arcade Fire threads.


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I read the review, I just didn't figure it was worthy of a post. I thought the score might be a tad high, and I figured others would say the same thing, and possibly be more negative.

I'm more concerned with March Madness than the album review.

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Radcliffe Wrote:
partlycloudy Wrote:
It was strange how much they bashed it, and yet still gave it a 'best new music' rating

Bashed it? You think that's a bad review?


But it only got 8.6!

With so many 10 out of 10 albums being released in 2007 it's obvious this was a giant and unmistakeable snub.

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Album doesn't warrant reading review. I heard this like a month ago and it's a bunch of hookless garbage. Didn't really like the previous album either though so there ya go, Anyway, while I'm pretending to be Ish, what's going on people? Anything good? It's like below 20 here so they cancelled school. I'm going to Staples to buy some cd label makers.


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someone who fancies themselves a writer explain to me why "mirror mirror on the wall/Show me where the bombs will fall" is such an horrible offense...


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someone who fancies themselves a writer explain to me why "mirror mirror on the wall/Show me where the bombs will fall" is such an horrible offense...


I'm no writer but I think the issue is falling back on fairy tale poetry rather than coming up with something on your own. The first time I heard this song I felt a little depressed when I heard that line. I thought Vin was above something that obvious and cheesy.

Overall, I thought this was a great review and I'm proud of the writer for not starting with a remark about following up a monumental album or avoiding the sophomore slump.


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Hegel Wrote:
someone who fancies themselves a writer explain to me why "mirror mirror on the wall/Show me where the bombs will fall" is such an horrible offense...

According to the review, the line is "show me where them bombs will fall" - which should explain the reviewer's charge of "faux-antiquated" language all by itself.


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Hegel Wrote:
someone who fancies themselves a writer explain to me why "mirror mirror on the wall/Show me where the bombs will fall" is such an horrible offense...


obviously
im no writer
but

watch how
easy it is

"humpty dumpty sat on a wall
im tired of the war and the mall"

the problem is
he stole one line
and the other line sucks too

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catswilleatyou Wrote:
Hegel Wrote:
someone who fancies themselves a writer explain to me why "mirror mirror on the wall/Show me where the bombs will fall" is such an horrible offense...


obviously
im no writer
but

watch how
easy it is

"humpty dumpty sat on a wall
im tired of the war and the mall"

the problem is
he stole one line
and the other line sucks too


I mean, I guess I understand the simplicity of it being an issue, but there's a shitload of music that is promoted and praised by Pitchfork that is much much worse, IMO. And I don't quite get why they are trying to hold this dude up to a much higher standard than TI or any other musician that gets rave reviews.


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I give up.


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I don't quite get why they are trying to hold this dude up to a much higher standard than TI or any other musician that gets rave reviews.


They must see it as a Win-Win situation.

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I read it. Stephen Duesner is one of my favorite writers at PFM. Typically does the alt-country reviews.


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I give up.


And true to form, I don't get it.


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catswilleatyou Wrote:
Hegel Wrote:
someone who fancies themselves a writer explain to me why "mirror mirror on the wall/Show me where the bombs will fall" is such an horrible offense...


obviously
im no writer
but

watch how
easy it is

"humpty dumpty sat on a wall
im tired of the war and the mall"

the problem is
he stole one line
and the other line sucks too

:lol:


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catswilleatyou Wrote:
Hegel Wrote:
someone who fancies themselves a writer explain to me why "mirror mirror on the wall/Show me where the bombs will fall" is such an horrible offense...


obviously
im no writer
but

watch how
easy it is

"humpty dumpty sat on a wall
im tired of the war and the mall"

the problem is
he stole one line
and the other line sucks too


That's awesome.


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Hegel Wrote:
I don't quite get why they are trying to hold this dude up to a much higher standard than TI or any other musician that gets rave reviews.


They must see it as a Win-Win situation.


Sorry Bob, but that's bad.


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Hegel Wrote:
I mean, I guess I understand the simplicity of it being an issue, but there's a shitload of music that is promoted and praised by Pitchfork that is much much worse, IMO. And I don't quite get why they are trying to hold this dude up to a much higher standard than TI or any other musician that gets rave reviews.


Whoa whoa whoa. I wouldn't listen to an Arcade Fire record for a hundred dollars, but TI is some good shit, bruh.

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