No discussion of Nebraska joining the Big Ten or the most of the Big 12 South joining the Pac-16?

I have frequently made fun of the Big Ten for being the Little Ten, but in truth, it will be great to play games in the Horseshoe and the Big House and gaining a rival in Iowa.
The additional TV revenue and academic research support that comes with joining the Big Ten will certainly help as the city of Lincoln builds a new arena and the University builds a huge academic research park on the State Fair grounds.

I thought the Pac-10 folks might have comments about having to deal with the folks from Texas and OU.

I was about to come in here and start a thread about this and the USC investigation results and call it "College Football Hot Stove Thread".

There are so many moving parts to this whole thing that I can't even begin to understand the ramifications of what all of this means. I know it's certainly not about the fans but about money. Unless this all ends in a playoff for the post-season I simply don't get it.

I'm just tired of the AD's, President's, and Conference Commissioners ruining a wonderful product by shitting all over traditions, rivalries, and generally becoming slaves to TV and the money. The whole need to somehow squeeze every dime out of the sport and for these commishes to want to "put their stamp" on the sport (new rules, BCS, et) just makes me ill.

As for USC, BAHAHAHAHA. Strip 'em of the title. Also, LANE KIFFIN LOL.

For anyone interested in how this all went down (and why) I highly recommend checking out this article from rivals.

Basically details how the Big 12 blew it by not supporting a Plus 1 playoff system in 2008 and how the douchebag Big 10 commissioner essentially played everyone for more money and put the sport in the state it currently finds itself in.

The whole thing is incredibly infuriating:


http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... sion060610

There are folks in Nebraska who will say the Big 12 blew it when the Big 8 bent over backward to welcome the four Texas schools into the conference and then basically gave total control to Texas over the next 14yrs.
The loss of partial qualifiers, the movement of the conference offices to Dallas from KC, a crappy tv deal with Fox Sports and a weak bowl line-up/revenue sharing plan inevitably pissed off enough schools including Nebraska to either demand major changes or leave the conference.

USC the fucking crims. This has been coming for years. Finally. Now the diminished Toejams should join the Mountain West Conference.

But in general I don't like this conference realignment. Maybe I am getting old and tied to tradition.

This potentially works great for both my teams, so like Harry I'm kinda sitting in the backseat to watch how this plays out. I do think that this is going to set off a chain-reaction where we'll eventually see Pac-10, Big 10, ACC, and SEC being the 4.

I'm really curious to see how the remnants of the Big 12 mesh with the best of the MWC/WAC and what happens with the ACC/Big East leftovers.

WFNI in Indianapolis had reported last night that Notre Dame, Rutgers, Syracuse and Maryland were to be added to the Big Ten ranks soon, once the Big 12 dissolved and it became open season for Super Conferences to be created.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4038 ... conference

Now if this was true, the Big East would be left with Cincinnati, Pitt, West Virginia, UCONN, Louisville and South Florida. If the SEC snakes FSU and Miami from the ACC, possibly Georgia Tech and Clemson too. Then what you have left in the ACC besides Virginia Tech does very little football wise, but are basketball powers.
Adding UNC and Duke to the Big East for Basketball purposes to replace Syracuse and ND makes a lot of sense.
I'd really hate to see the Big Least disappear for football purposes, if they are going to remain a basketball juggernaut.

I'm glad you started this thread, Malachi, because I was wondering why you had yet to comment on THE MOST EPIC CORNHUSKER STORY IN THE PAST 20 YEARS, when you've never before missed the opportunity to update the board on such slightly less earthshattering Nebraska news as every last detail about the Lady Huskers Badminton team's off-season intra-squad scrimmage, etc.

Also, I'm hoping ND follows NU into the Big 13. That would be funs.

As for the PAC-16, I'm hearing rumblings from my sources here locally that Texas A&M is trying to veer over to the SEC, instead.

I've been trying to avoid buying into this news, and didn't want to comment until even the reliable Omaha World Herald was implying it was a done deal.
Also local politics in regards to allowing alcohol consumption in State Parks, moving the bar closure time to 2:00am and a controversy involving the Democratic Candidate for Governor has kept me away from Husker sports recently.

I figure they'll invite Syracuse or Rutgers to make both the Irish and Penn State happy, if ND joins the Big Ten. What do you think the division would be, and would it be Nebraska and Notre Dame in one division, with Ohio State and Michigan in the other to balance it out?

Yeah, OU and A&M allegedly had conversations with the SEC, I personally think that Texas and OU would be the most logical picks for the SEC along with FSU and Miami to make it the official juggernaut conference, but Rick Perry and most politicians in Texas won't allow the Aggies and Longhorns to separate.

Here's how I would like to see the divisions:

Notre Dame
Michigan
Ohio State
Penn State
Northwestern
Michigan State

Nebraska
Iowa
Wisconsin
Purdue
Minnesota
Illinois
Indiana

I don't think they would want three of the top five winningest programs in one division, with one of the top five winningest programs in the other division, but they can't really split it down the middle or separate Ohio State from Michigan.
A resurgent Nebraska would essentially be joining the Big 12 North again in that scenario.

I'll believe MD leaving ACC when I see it. Why would they leave a perennially strong contender across the board in sports. I couldn't see this being a viable option for them. MD is a pretty heavy-sided basketball school, so why leave a conf. that is going to be out there every year contending?

Colorado looks to be heading to the Pac-10. This whole thing is a clusterfuck and it stinks to high heaven.

So much rumor and speculation. The BCS is currently fucked if the Big 12 is indeed disolving before our very eyes.

One scenario is where the Pac-10 goes to 2 divisions and DOESN'T play a title game. Therefore allowing for 2 teams from the same conference playing for the BCS title.

Chaos.

Megadeal, Megameal, Megabucks, Megaconferences, blech.

Megasuck. Greed knows no bounds. The only positive likely to come from this is the eventual creation of a football playoff.

I think there's too much money in conference championships for this to happen. I think this brings us closer to a playoff. Super-conferences with championship games where the winners play each other in a playoff.

Short answer, Money from Football TV deals and the fact that the ACC is going to be diminished as well if every thing plays out as projected. The Big Ten would really like that DC TV market.
I was reading a Paul Finebaum blog article where he stated that the SEC has been flirting with dropping South Carolina to make a play for the Big 12 South schools minus Baylor.

I knew CU was headed to the Pac-10, since the State of Texas couldn't force that conference to take a religious school like Baylor.
Plus, the campus atmosphere at Boulder is much more like Berkeley than it is any of the old Big 8 schools.

You have to figure that Texas will take the short-sighted "which conference is easier to win" approach and go to Pac10 before they get thrown to the fucking wolves in the SEC.

I think A&M and OU will join the SEC.

I think Texas is going to be a huge diva and flirt with the PAC 10 and big 10 and independence.

I think it has more to do with calling the shots rather than winning it all. Thus why I think they have flirted with being Independent.
They weren't a dominant program when they joined the Big 12 and while they won the initial Big 12 title game in a major upset over Nebraska, they weren't a National title contender until about 2004.
They want to run the show, and right now they do in the Big 12, and would most likely have a significant amount of pull in the Pac-10 now the USC is impotent for a few years. There's no way in hell that LSU, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia or Florida would allow the Longhorns to walk in and make a bunch of demands.
If Texas doens't need the SEC, the SEC doesn't need Texas.

Yes, yes and yes.

Come on man. They're one of the most storied programs in college football. Not to mention, currently, the most profitable AND their other sports programs are strong as well.

I don't think they'll be "calling the shots". What those facts do give them is the luxury of going where the best situation for them is.

I hate the idea of 16 teams. It will ruin out of conference possibilities IMO.

I mean, as a UGA fan, I do NOT want to lose the Georgia/Georgia Tech rivalry. So we would need to play our whole division, which would be 8 games. How many would we then play from the other division if the SEC West went to 8 teams. 1? 2? If we played 2 then we could still play Tech but if we had to play 3 then it might go away.

Major non-conference match-ups will go away as well. You won't see as many USC/Ohio St. mid-season games.

Also, will this make it even more difficult for teams not in the 64 teams of 4 Super Conferences to become the next Boise State? Will that even be possible in this scenario?

I think the Orrin Hatch's are going to be given plenty of ammo for anti-trust arguments.

To the first point, if the remnants of the Big 12 can join up with various MWC, WAC, Conference USA, etc schools and keep the rights to the Big 12, the current BCS system would dictate that they still get an automatic bid. I heard that being bandied about as a way to keep those schools happy while maintaining the status quo with five instead of six automatic bids.
I don't think the Orrin Hatch's of the world would inevitably have the votes in Congress or support of the courts to do a damn thing about it. You'd see bipartisan support from all the states involved in the Super Conferences to successfully block it, plus folks like Jay Bilias are saying this could effectively eliminate the NCAA from Major College Football in the same way the NCAA tournament eliminated the once mighty NIT tournament, and how the AAU was once a dominant sporting organization in this country and is now shit.
I really think we're about to see a Premier League, followed by a much larger Division 1 league with the MAC, WAC, Sun Belt, Conference USA schools not profitable enough to be in the Mega conferences joining the current FCS schools.