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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:06 pm 
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my inside source at the vatican (no sh|t) says the pope is dead.

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not as much of a scoop as i was hoping for... cnn.com has this too.

now my source has nothing else to report on, so that's 1 less "connection" i have in a pool of 1. damn pope.

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I don't think you can ask more for a life. Well maybe some sex, but all things considered I can't find anything to be sad about. He lived to 84 and will generally be considered one of the better popes. He accomplished alot, and his time was up.

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This is how he actually died:

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My inside sources got that picture for me.

This one too:

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Pope John Paul Is Dead: Vatican

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope John Paul II, who headed the Roman Catholic Church for 26 years, died on Saturday evening, the Vatican said in a statement.

The news was immediately announced to around 60,000 gathered in St Peter's Square and was met with a long applause, an Italian sign of respect. Bells tolled and many people wept openly.

"Our Holy Father John Paul has returned to the house of the Father," Archbishop Leonardo Sandri told the crowds.

The Vatican statement said the 84-year-old Pontiff died at 9.37 p.m (1437 EST).

"The Holy Father died this evening at 21.37 in his private apartment," the statement said.

John Paul will be remembered for his role in the collapse of communism in Europe and his unyielding defense of traditional Vatican doctrines as leader of the world's 1.1 billion Catholics.

Huge crowds had staged a tearful vigil in St. Peter's Square, praying for a man already being dubbed by some Catholics as "John Paul the Great."

The Pope's health had deteriorated steadily over the past decade and earlier this year took a sharp turn for the worse.

The Pontiff, once a lithe athlete and powerful speaker, was already racked by arthritis and Parkinson's Disease, his voice often reduced to a raspy whisper.

He was rushed to hospital twice in February and had to have a tracheotomy to ease serious breathing problems. But he never regained his strength from the operation and failed dramatically on two occasions to address crowds at St. Peter's Square.

On Wednesday doctors inserted a feeding tube into his stomach to try boost his energy levels. A day later he developed a urinary infection and high fever that soon precipitated heart failure, kidney problems and ultimately death.

According to pre-written Church rules, the Pontiff's mourning rites will last 9 days and his body is likely to be laid to rest in the crypt underneath St Peter's Basilica.

The conclave to elect a new Pope will start in 15 to 20 days, with 117 cardinals from around the world gathering in the Vatican's Sistine Chapel to choose a successor.

There is no favorite candidate to take over. Karol Wojtyla was himself regarded as an outsider when he was elevated to the papacy on Oct. 16, 1978.

Few would have predicted then that the first non-Italian Pope in 455 years would throw off the stiff trappings of the papacy, travel the globe and leave an indelible mark on history.

In over a quarter century on the world stage, he was both a champion of the downtrodden and an often contested defender of orthodoxy within his own church.

Historians say one of the Pope's most lasting legacies will be his role in the fall of communism in Eastern Europe in 1989.

"Behold the night is over, day has dawned anew," the Pope said during a triumphant visit to Czechoslovakia in 1990.

A decade after witnessing the fall of communism, he fulfilled another of his dreams. He visited the Holy Land in March 2000, and, praying at Jerusalem's Western Wall, asked forgiveness for Catholic sins against Jews over the centuries.

But while many loved the man, his message was less popular and he was a source of deep division in his own church.

Critics constantly attacked his traditionalist stance on family issues, such as his condemnation of contraception and homosexuality, and hope the next Pope will be more liberal.

However, he has appointed more than 95 percent of the cardinals who will elect his successor, thus stacking the odds that his controversial teachings will not be tampered with.


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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Richard Krauth Wrote:
Grandaddy died. He was a good man


Condolences to you Catholics and your families out there in Obner-land


I appreciate your respect, Msr Bloor, especially considering your origin. As a Southern man, gentle or not, you should have been brought up to be virulently anti-papist, but maybe that's been changing, ever slowly, as Catholic Cubans have infiltrated the circles of power in Florida, and John F. Kennedy (yes, indeed) has become a touchstone for conservative power-plays (i.e. Rush Limbaugh's ploy from '93-4 that JFK was a conservative, et. al.).

Or maybe not. Maybe if one got south of Maryland, or outside SoLA, a Roman Catholic still would have to step softly, but, whatever...

I do recall a certain wistfulness for Camelot in your state's boy's biography I havn't understood anything since 1962, anyway.

(Yup. I was a sucka as a youth and read Grizzard. Sue me.)


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I appreciate your respect, Msr Bloor, especially considering your origin.

(Yup. I was a sucka as a youth and read Grizzard. Sue me.)


I was raised to respect all people no matter their beliefs. I'm not particularly religous but I grew up going to the Methodist church and they are pretty inclusive; I get it and respect that religions like Catholicism and Judaism are much more family-based than Protestants, thus I feel for y'all even if I don't fully understand it all.

Grizzard was from Moreland and I'm from Sharpsburg, both in Coweta County Georgia. He was a great guy, I actually met him at a Newnan High School football game back in the 80's. Funny dude.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Not so big Ghita Wrote:

I appreciate your respect, Msr Bloor, especially considering your origin.

(Yup. I was a sucka as a youth and read Grizzard. Sue me.)


I was raised to respect all people no matter their beliefs. I'm not particularly religous but I grew up going to the Methodist church and they are pretty inclusive; I get it and respect that religions like Catholicism and Judaism are much more family-based than Protestants, thus I feel for y'all even if I don't fully understand it all.

Grizzard was from Moreland and I'm from Sharpsburg, both in Coweta County Georgia. He was a great guy, I actually met him at a Newnan High School football game back in the 80's. Funny dude.


I have inspired an avatar. Huzzah!

Now, like the pope, I can die a success.


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Not so big Ghita Wrote:
I have inspired an avatar. Huzzah!

Now, like the pope, I can die a success.


Yeah, my avatars are usually my Hall of Fame: Robert Mitchum, Hunter Thompson, Gibby Haynes, etc. You just jogged my memory. Thanks. I think I might go down to my mom's house to grab some Grizzard books.

BTW Monty, theyve got some archived columns and whatnot here: http://www.lewisgrizzard.com/

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I love some fucking Lewis Grizzard. The Pope? Meh.

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one thing i've never understood about the pope, he's the ultimate priest right?
as far as i udnerstand it priests take 3 vows. a vow of celebacy, devotion to god and a life of poverty, right?

but the Pope lives a life far from poverty.

i've never understood that.

anyway.
he seemed like a prettty decent dude and he lived a pretty amazing life.
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one thing i've never understood about the pope, he's the ultimate priest right?
as far as i udnerstand it priests take 3 vows. a vow of celebacy, devotion to god and a life of poverty, right?

but the Pope lives a life far from poverty.

i've never understood that.


Traditionally, the Pope does not receive any pay, nor does he have a bank account.


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Sad. I hope all his beliefs on the afterlife have been confirmed.


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anyway, my inside source is my wife's friend's husband. he's john allen. he's been on cnn often since last rights were performed.

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Borg166 Wrote:
jewels santana Wrote:
one thing i've never understood about the pope, he's the ultimate priest right?
as far as i udnerstand it priests take 3 vows. a vow of celebacy, devotion to god and a life of poverty, right?

but the Pope lives a life far from poverty.

i've never understood that.


Traditionally, the Pope does not receive any pay, nor does he have a bank account.


he has no official holdings, but the dude wears more bling than 50 Cent.

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actually priest don't take a vow of poverty. other catholic relgious do, but priest don't have to unless it's some special order. As far as the Pope, I don't know about his vows.

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You forget that The Vatican is quite a wealthy "country".


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You forget that The Vatican is quite a wealthy "country".


That's "Vatican City" to you. Its right up there with Monaco and Leichenstein.

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