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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:09 pm 
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I am beginning to think that XM/et al may be beaming from a musical deathstar. Like crack or Burger King ads, at first it seems great, amusing and new, but then, it turns out to be insidious and highly addictive. I think it may have sirius consequences later. For Example: Down here in Belize, I can listen to the exact same channels as you can in LA, as Konstantinl can hear in Glasgow...doesn't that freak anyone out? So, if XM won't play the new band from Belize, or from Townsville, AUS, how will we hear new bands? Homogenous radio is what brings us here to Obner, we don't want to babble about Britney's new single....Each Channel has its own format, yes, but how do the directors of those formats choose the playlists? If everyone in Kingston, Jamaica stops listening to local radio stations, the new Dancehall sensation will never make it out of the shantytown Hall, the guy with the bleeding fingers at Antone's and the Continental Club is screwed.

Discuss. Am I just being paranoid?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:13 pm 
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both satellite co's have unsigned band channels and are currently fighting for "local" capabilities (terrestrial is pissed that satellite wants this and are largel trying to prevent them)

each station is programmed individually and if promoters are smart, they'll be sending albums to these specific channels. your dancehall program directors want dancehall music. they change $%^& up all the time and have special blocks, etc. they always want new music.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:16 pm 
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I like the fact that a lot of famous musicians are hosting their own shows where they [allegedly] play what they want on Sat. radio now. (a la Little Steven's Garage Show (sic)----we used to get it syndicated on WZGC and I though it was excellent-discuss).

Not sure about the PD's but a lot of the on air talent are no talent ass clowns, at least on XM (they play it at my pub)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:22 pm 
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There's another thing:
The other day, I saw two kids fishing on a an old windsurfer board, They were hanging out on the lagoon, just swimming, fishing and talking. They had rigged a sail with a shredded Elmo bedsheet, and spray-painted in big letters across the sheet: THUG LIFE BLOODS hhmmmm? Global influence of satellite radio is double edged, jus'sayin'

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there are very few negative thing that you can get me to say about sat. radio. All I know is that on my luch break I sat in my car and listened to part of the Braves game (in Madison, WI), get to listen to a pretty good show on the weekends soemtimes that's hosted by Tom Petty, and listen to Opie and Anthony, which is FUNGY!


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beachy lunchtime musings Wrote:
There's another thing:
The other day, I saw two kids fishing on a an old windsurfer board, They were hanging out on the lagoon, just swimming, fishing and talking. They had rigged a sail with a shredded Elmo bedsheet, and spray-painted in big letters across the sheet: THUG LIFE BLOODS hhmmmm? Global influence of satellite radio is double edged, jus'sayin'


Oh shit, if you want to get started on the "thugification" of America's youth as perpetuated by MTV, have at it.

Between that, oxy contin, and crystal meth, little towns in Iowa are now full on Mogadishu style shooting galleries.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
beachy lunchtime musings Wrote:
There's another thing:
The other day, I saw two kids fishing on a an old windsurfer board, They were hanging out on the lagoon, just swimming, fishing and talking. They had rigged a sail with a shredded Elmo bedsheet, and spray-painted in big letters across the sheet: THUG LIFE BLOODS hhmmmm? Global influence of satellite radio is double edged, jus'sayin'


Oh shit, if you want to get started on the "thugification" of America's youth as perpetuated by MTV, have at it.

Between that, oxy contin, and crystal meth, little towns in Iowa are now full on Mogadishu style shooting galleries.


Yeah, I know, the whole "Global Thug" thing is an MTV/BET thing, and I have heard its everywhere in America now, so maybe I can be accused of being a little "Not In My Backyard"--ish here. My point is, when I travel, I love to hear local music, Bad or Good, it sets a tone for where you are being different from where you came from. You would want to think that the pub near your house is playing something different than the one by mine, no?

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Yeah, that's why I host my own night there. After years of complaining I did something about it and now its MY music on Tuesday nights. The trade off is that now I can't bitch about the tuneage the other 5 days of the week. :D

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why not?

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There's a guy that hosts his night at a bar here, He just got the bootleg G-Unit. The crowd loves it.

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Yeah, that's why I host my own night there. After years of complaining I did something about it and now its MY music on Tuesday nights. The trade off is that now I can't bitch about the tuneage the other 5 days of the week. :D


I sure can. WORST MUSIC EVER (when Yail's not there).

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why not?


Its kind of an unspoken deal between me and the mangement. So basically the answer is, "So I can keep my job there"

I used to be either vocally abusive to the bartenders or insist on playing my own discs everytime I went in it there. Honestly, it's much easier this way.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Its kind of an unspoken deal between me and the mangement. So basically the answer is, "So I can keep my job there"
so did you ask to play the music on bingo night, or did you ask to play music and they said "ok, only if you call the numbers too"? i think that either is pretty good, just curious.


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chase Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
Its kind of an unspoken deal between me and the mangement. So basically the answer is, "So I can keep my job there"
so did you ask to play the music on bingo night, or did you ask to play music and they said "ok, only if you call the numbers too"? i think that either is pretty good, just curious.


I lifted the "rock'n'roll bingo" concept from this guy at a bar that i used to frequent in Atlanta (with his permission) and modified it to my own style. I presented it like a business proposal (albeit with a few drinks in me) to the GM and Owner.

I mean, besides the music, its a win-win for them. As opposed to their other promotions/live acts/theme nights I make all my own promotional materials, provide my own PA, and give their other promotions "mentions" during my show. And I keep people drinking.

The trade off for them is:
1. my own creative control of my show (this includes not only the music, but also what comes out of my mouth)
2. The amount of free booze I consume and give away in prizes.
3. The $$$ they pay me at the end of the night

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Yail,
Fortunately for the managment, you have taste, I have people asking me every night to play some crap or other, always to my response: you want to play your music in a bar, then open one of your own. Then I ask people what they like about my place, and they always mention the music.... I think it has to do with people getting inspired by decent music and wanting to turn me on to "this grreat band, dude, you'll love em, they're called Slipknot....." ( pardons to the legion Slipknot fans, only a metaphor)

So, overall, we agree that all pubs and restaurants the world over should sound the same musically, Like a million Friday's.
hmm, see: like crack, I said.
[backing away slooowly] that's cool, just me I guess[very sloowly]

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Beachy,
I really don't have taste. 8)

I know what you are saying though about people pressing their tunes; its annoying and I am really lucky that I am a defacto employee of this joint.

I've always wanted to own my own bar/restaraunt and once I cash out in my business I will probably start pissing away the money doing just that.......

Edit: you lucky bastard...

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Beachy,
I really don't have taste. 8)

I know what you are saying though about people pressing their tunes; its annoying and I am really lucky that I am a defacto employee of this joint.

I've always wanted to own my own bar/restaraunt and once I cash out in my business I will probably start pissing away the money doing just that.......

Edit: you lucky bastard...

Regarding Diderot and the pissing of money, this is my favorite:

In any country where talent and virtue produce no advancement, money will be the national god. Its inhabitants will either have to possess money or make others believe that they do. Wealth will be the highest virtue, poverty the greatest vice. Those who have money will display it in every imaginable way. If their ostentation does not exceed their fortune, all will be well. But if their ostentation does exceed their fortune they will ruin themselves. In such a country, the greatest fortunes will vanish in the twinkling of an eye. Those who don't have money will ruin themselves with vain efforts to conceal their poverty. That is one kind of affluence: the outward sign of wealth for a small number, the mask of poverty for the majority, and a source of corruption for all.

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I've always wanted to own my own bar/restaraunt and once I cash out in my business I will probably start pissing away the money doing just that.......


When this glorious event happens, I'm moving to ATL and changing my name to "Norm."

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I know XM has a portable walkman type player but does anyone know if Sirius has one?

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I know XM has a portable walkman type player but does anyone know if Sirius has one?


http://bizrate.lycos.com/marketplace/se ... 57722.html


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shiv Wrote:
I know XM has a portable walkman type player but does anyone know if Sirius has one?


http://bizrate.lycos.com/marketplace/se ... 57722.html


Thanks Haq. I guess you need to use this too with it, but the XM version you don't need something like that.

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yeah 3 hour battery life? wtf?

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