i keep meeting girls from south jersey, and don't feel like calling them because of this reason.

am i a bad person?

I never have this problem for some reason.

I'm from new jersey so i can say this.

The south of new jersey is pretty much like southern america. highly conservative, religious, and because of this people are quite ignorant and just plain uncultured. I go to school with quite a few people from south jersey, and while all of them are nice and very smart people, the greater majority of them had never met a jewish person til they went to college. That sort of inexperience with different cultures is sort of frightening given our proximity to new york and philadelphia, yet this black whole does exist in my home state, and it depresses me quite a bit. and no you're not a bad person

sorry, that rant was probably more for me than for you.

most of the people i meet from south jersey are just south philly/ north east philly expats

actually you sound like a complete fucking moron to me.

and it's "hole" not "whole" genius.....

I was gonna jump all over this one, but decided it ain't worth it.

Stay out the way of the Southern Thing is all I have to say to this guy.

southern Delaware is like the south (accents and NASCAR), i think southern Jersey is just extremley suburban.

South Jersey as in "Cherry Hill" or South Jersey and in "Wildwood"?

<==== spent way to many years in Jersey. Exits 9 and 14.

Cherry Hill

Ick, stick with Wildwood.

Wildwood chicks aren't coming to my bars.

so to recap,

southern = highly conserative + religious = ignorant

meeting jews = diversity

right?

I thought it was North Jersey that everyone made fun of?

sounds like something i would say. i love how the georgia boys get all up in arms about this. i'd be willing to say that more highly conservative and religious people have views that i don't find to be rational or pleasing, but labelling them all ignorant (as tempting as it is) would be a bit rash.

meeting jews is certainly more diverse than not meeting them. i'm always a bit shocked to meet people at school who have never met jewish people and act as if it's some kind of completely foreign and weird thing.

i think being highly conservative does make you ignorant, as does being highly liberal.

that's just more celebrated because people listen to what people from New York say, no one cares what people from Philly think.

Except people in Baltimore, who are terribly insecure towards Philly & NY to the north and DC to the South.

It's worth noting that Jewish communities are often fairly sequestered, and Jewish populations concentrated in specific geographic areas. What do you say to a high school kid who's lived in South Jersey where there are relatively few Jewish people? Go on a Jew hunt, it will be good for you?

i'm not sure "hunt" would be a good word to use.

Wow,

didn't mean to set off such a fuss. The anger to my post, however is justified. I wrote it kinda quick, and, now that i read again, i see how inflammatory it was, and how some of my points weren't really followed through. I just saw the topic and a whole bunch of things just flew into my head, and i kinda spewed it out without really editing

To clarify, I'm from the north. I've never really been "made fun of" for being from the north, so i don't know where that comes from. People in New Jersey tend to be made fun of for being from NJ. some of it is founded, and most of it isn't.

also, i was not making a sweeping generalization that south=stupid=ignorant=conservative=religious. It does not. Such a thing to say is ridiculous to even think, and if you knew me, you'd know i would never mean such a thing. I think the point i was trying to make is that, in my experience with going down there, like to wildwood for instance, i've felt very out of place. there is a stronger conservative force down there, which is something that i disagree with. Also i disagree with Christianity as well as most organized religions on many levels. sometimes i get frustrated with both of these groups and how their policies conflict with mine, and yes sometimes i do find conservative points of view to be indicative of ignorance when considering certain issues, so to Jewels Santana's question, i would agree with him in not calling these women back, because i wouldn't either, but for ideological reasons mainly. When i do go down there, i sometimes feel like i'm in a different part of the country, and the most alien part of the country to me is the southern half, as i've really only been to Florida and Louisiana. So the point i was trying to make has little to do with the "south" and it's stereotypes, and more to do with being like a fish out of water.

I think the one thing in my life that i've always been pleased with is the fact that i've known and been friends with so many different types of people. To not have that diversity in my life, especially during my formitive years, would frighten me becuase that's how you learn about life. No, knowing a jewish person is not solely what makes you cultured, and that's not the point i was making. I was trying to say that the earlier you come to know different groups of people, the better off you are. It's especially important to do that when you are young. I feel that when people get older, its harder to change gears, and break old habits. it worries me sometimes to think that people grow up with ideas/prejudices about people that they've never even experienced, because they missed out on the learning experiences i was fortunate enough to have (mainly because i grew up near new york) and may not be able to change in the future. hope that makes sense. That was a long winded apology, but i'm very sorry for causing trouble, especially when i didn't intend for any in the first place.

Lastly, someone pointed out earlier that i made a typo in the other post. I think in general it's a good policy to not rag on people for spelling/usage mistakes. we all make them, most of the time not on purpose, so i think it's a better policy to keep disagreements to posts related to the content.

that was me, normally I would never do that b/c i generally make typo/grammatical/spelling mistakes at a n alarming rate myself. It was more to illustrate a point......

Anyway, no real offense taken; we should probly both look around a bit more sometimes, eh?

agreed. thanks

definitely. i just got back from driving through both. south jersey for the most part has sprawled out of control. the stereotypical jersey girl is evenly spread throughout all the land of jersey.

camden is the scariest. place. on. earth.

and yet they have done a better job developing the waterfront than philly.
pathetic.

philly has a waterfront?