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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:01 pm 
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I am not really in love with this season, at all. I wish i were, it's fun when you're into it. I'm just getting tired of questions being answered by more questions. Stoppit already.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:18 pm 
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Yeah, I'm still enjoying it, despite the numerous gaping (and often silly beyond ridiculousness) plot holes. At this point, I'm just enjoying the ride all the way to the end. It's far from perfect, but I still love it.


Amen. There's nothing objectively good about these episodes. But it's still worth watching.

Maybe Lapidus could fix and fly the plane.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:22 pm 
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seems pretty damn consistent with the other seasons. if you liked it before i see no reason to not like it now.

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seems pretty damn consistent with the other seasons. if you liked it before i see no reason to not like it now.


exactly.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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rparis74 Wrote:
seems pretty damn consistent with the other seasons. if you liked it before i see no reason to not like it now.

So wrong.


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I am not really in love with this season, at all. I wish i were, it's fun when you're into it. I'm just getting tired of questions being answered by more questions. Stoppit already.


I've been feeling very unsatisfied after most of the episodes this season.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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You guys sound like ppl who lament the decline of weezer after Pinkerton

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You guys sound like ppl who lament the decline of weezer after Pinkerton


yeah, but this is actually legitimate.

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No.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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rparis74 Wrote:
You guys sound like ppl who lament the decline of weezer after Pinkerton

You mean like the people who spell people "ppl"?

Anyone who thinks this season is on par with the first few seasons of "Lost" either never watched those first few seasons or they didn't pay attention. This season is all about cliffhangers that lack suspense, retarded "explanations" of previous mysteries, random "flash-sideways" without any dramatic momentum, a forgotten consistency in character motivation, and a clear sense of panic emanating from the writers' room on account of the fact they painted themselves into a corner. Put it this way: there's a dude walking around who is a smoke monster. And he carries a gun. Shark. Jumped.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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very very true. not to mention that we're six seasons in, and we're still subject to rampant character development, times three, times a dozen. except most characters have very similar conflicts, and every episode rehashes mistakable versions of the same development, and the lateral flashes are critically predictable because of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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a clear sense of panic emanating from the writers' room on account of the fact they painted themselves into a corner


I'm waiting until after the series finale before deciding whether or not to agree with you on this, though I will say the likelihood is becoming increasingly high with each passing episode that you are correct.

Even so, I remain impressed by the sheer volume of intricate details and interwoven real-world obscurities (relevant literary references, stuff from disciplines like physics and philosophy, ancent history, etc.) upon which so much of this story has been structured.

Of course, it's very understandable that many (such as Rads and DumpJack) are beyond disappointed that what was once such a promising premise may come crashing down like a house of cards - the ultimate six-season shell game. I still have faith Cuse and Lindelof know what they're doing and that won't be the case, but my faith is wavering.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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I am ready for it to be over, but I have enjoyed the ride...

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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this season is definitely weak so far.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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I really liked last night's episode. Easily one of the best of the season for me.

I love how it filled in a lot of the island mythology through the story Jacob/Man in Black/Richard - the statue being broken, Black Rock, Richard's agelessness, slave owner/magnate Magnus Hanso being the distant relative of Alvar Hanso who created the Dharma Initiative, etc. I dont know if they will go back and address the rest of Richard's story in the final 9 hours of the series, but I really enjoyed finally learning how he came to be on the island and in the service of Jacob.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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At this point I really can't believe people are liking anything about this show. Last night "answered" a lot, but the answers were incredibly weak (at best) or just plain insulting. Never mind the retarded nature of the concept, Richard's request to never die didn't even make sense on an emotional level. And the Black Rock took out a 300 ft. statue in rough seas and then beached mid-island... oh kay. And don't get me started on the smoke monster. Or the inconsistency of Jacob's apparent need to "bring people to the island". Or the wine bottle explanation. Holy fuck, I'm getting red faced canned ham head just thinking back on it.

I guess mostly I'm angry at myself for buying into the belief that LOST was ever more than typical TV horseshit. Those first two seasons really set up a spectacular mystery, and part of the appeal of the show over the last few lesser seasons has been the intrigue involved in watching how the creators would unravel such a complex mystery in the context of the general stupidity of television itself. The actual answer to that, however, has been anything but intriguing. It's not like they've merely shit the bed, they've decided to lie in it, shit some more, fingerpaint the pillows, and then sculpt a shit monument on the mattress like Richard Dreyfus in Close Encounters. And the thing that keeps me coming back is the promise that every week each new episode will bring even more layers of outrageous shit, and the only intriguing question left is how high this pile can get.

But good on you if you like it.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:22 pm 
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And the thing that keeps me coming back is the promise that every week each new episode will bring even more layers of outrageous shit, and the only intriguing question left is how high this pile can get.


I was enjoying most of the season until last night and if it continues down the Richard episode track even more I think I can see myself feeling this way about it. haha


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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I liked last night's episode personally. There's no way the conclusion of the show can possibly be anything but underwhelming at this point but I think the good/evil angle is pretty interesting.

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I think the good/evil angle is pretty interesting.

Yeah. They're really breaking new ground on that one.


Funny recap here: http://videogum.com/160081/lost-s06e09-aye-carumba/tv/recaps/


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I'm almost with Radcliffe on this which I realize is close to a complete about face for me.

A little while ago I was looking up the writing credits for this season (and lo and behold, the same two people were indeed responsible for the two worst episodes so far) and previous ones, and on reading the synopses of several of the older season episodes, I was finally hit by the fact that yeah, this show has fallen pretty far. (It might not really make much difference, but so far Brian K. Vaughan hasn't been responsible for a single episode this season, and for him, at least, this is probably a good thing.) I disagree that it's been all downhill since the first two seasons, though, and that's why I think I've had a tough time admitting that it's all a sham. What's managed to string me along so far has been the dramatic increase in quality that happened in the latter half of Season 3 and much of Season 4. To me those cemented the notion, that yeah, this show really is on a higher level. The first halves of both Season 2 and Season 3 were pretty rough rides and had me thinking about jumping ship at several points (and Season 2 was where I started watching the show as it aired). I thought Season 4 was pretty great, honestly, and I think it's solely because of that that I've been able to suspend disbelief for so long. All the Season 5 time travel/dharma retro was fairly innocuous and a little irritating at times, but there still seemed to be plenty of possibility for some grand, exciting payoff in the final season. Now with each episode this season I've seen that hope dwindle away to the point that I'm just trying to enjoy the "fun" without thinking about it too much. Last night's Richard episode was about as disappointing a "revelation" as we ever could have gotten, and it makes it pretty clear why all of these answers have been guarded so closely; they were always pretty lame. The fun was always in the mystery, and I suppose that was the point. Unravel that mystery and what have you got? I mean, in their defense, I don't think any of various speculations and theories by fans over the past several years would have amounted to anything better, but maybe some people would have been a little happier with being able to say "Aha! I was right!" than be hit with one WTF after another.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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2. “Hey, Claire, we’re really sorry about abducting you and branding you and just generally being such jerks. Whaddya say let’s bury the hatchet?”


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i've finally caught up on this season. some episodes have been boring (kate, ben, sawyer) but i generally like the flash-sideways things just to see how they'll all coincidentally meet up. i'm with cap'n though in that i've given up on most of this trying to make sense and just gonna enjoy it as it goes.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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1. We don’t know his politics, but I’m gonna take a wild guess that Richard Alpert’s probably an Obamacare guy.

2. The doctor’s butler was great at fetching floor towels, but left a little to be desired in the “stopping boss killers” category.

3. Couldn’t Jacob have arranged for Ilana to be admitted to the Russian equivalent of Cedars-Sinai, instead of what looked more like a dilapidated Siberian Care Now?

4. What kind of priest rejects a confession? Oh, right..the kind who sells the confessor to a slave ship.

5. Watching the smoke monster interact with chained-up Alpert, I noticed a couple of major flashes when it was right up in his face. Then, Isabella shows up a short while later. It seems pretty clear those flashes were capturing Alpert’s thoughts, so the smoke monster could replicate the visage of Isabella – just like it did with Eko’s brother.

6. I’m no Physics major or anything, but how exactly does a huge ship go from hitting a giant beach statue to comfortably resting upright on the middle of an enormous island?

7. Is it possible that Jacob’s analogy comparing the island to a cork that keeps the evil wine trapped in a protective bottle might be a clue to why the flash sideways island rests at the bottom of the ocean?

8. There were a few moments during this episode where I thought maybe Jacob was the evil one. He was kind of a dick to Alpert at first.

9. I found it very interesting that the Man in Black gave Alpert the exact same instructions for killing Jacob that Dogen gave Sayid for killing The Locke-ness Monster.

10. If the whole chicken shack/temp agency mogul thing doesn’t end up working out, maybe Hurley can get a gig as a translator.

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the way they're tying up the loose ends, it's as if they let message board threads from three seasons ago dictate the script. and if the directors were as lost as they say were in the middle of the series, that makes perfect sense.


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Second very good episode in a row...

1. With all of the world’s most sophisticated equipment at his disposal, why did Widmore have his mercenaries use the same primitive blow dart technology the headhunters employed against Gilligan? When in Rome, I guess…

2. If we learned one thing from the “unbutton” scene in the hotel suite, it’s that there’s nothing hotter than the surface of the Sun…YOWZA!

3. Every time Keamy makes an appearance he just oozes menace. I think he’s actually the guy from Burn Notice, but I’ve got no idea what Burn Notice is, so how the hell would I know?!?

4. Sun’s Dad is an a-hole in every dimension, including flash-sideways.

5. If Jin ever finally gets to meet his daughter, she is going to kick his ass at Hide and Seek.

6. Settle down, panicky Claire – even though your name wasn’t scrawled on the wall of the cave, you’ll still get an Ajira boarding pass.

7. As for Kate, “whatever happens, happens.” Sucks to be her!

8. I have no idea who to root for in the war between Widmore and The Locke-ness Monster – it’s like the Nazis vs. the Vietcong.

9. Sure, Sayid has been reduced to a murderous zombie, but he still wants to FEEL, dammit!

10. It sure looked like Desmond was overserved on his return trip to the island, brutha.

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Can somebody make/find a screencap of Sun running into that tree? Better yet, how about an animated gif?


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