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After the Ziggy train finally ran out of stream, to come up with this album outta nowhere really was pretty fucking amazing.

I can totally see why they call this plastic soul. It influenced heavily by soul, but it really is something different and distant and shiny and surreal. Across the Universe is one of those songs I can forget about until I hear it and love it all over again.

And yes, the whole dissociative mood of this album does indeed sound excellent on pills. Temptation....temptation... You're a bad influence Toze.


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While my contributions are admittedly minimal, they resonate occasionally.


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Yeah, this album has some real high points, but it's pretty inconsistent. I like it a lot, though. The title track, "Right", "Fascination", and "Fame" are all awesome. The rest isn't bad, and I kind of like his version of "Across the Universe". Definitely a lot more fun than Diamond Dogs.


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Taking the detached plastic soul of Young Americans to an elegant, robotic extreme, Station to Station is a transitional album that creates its own distinctive style. Abandoning any pretense of being a soulman, yet keeping rhythmic elements of soul, David Bowie positions himself as a cold, clinical crooner and explores a variety of styles. Everything from epic ballads and disco to synthesized avant pop is present on Station to Station, but what ties it together is Bowie's cocaine-induced paranoia and detached musical persona. At its heart, Station to Station is an avant-garde art-rock album, most explicitly on "TVC 15" and the epic sprawl of the title track, but also on the cool crooning of "Wild Is the Wind" and "Word on a Wing," as well as the disco stylings of "Golden Years." It's not an easy album to warm to, but its epic structure and clinical sound were an impressive, individualistic achievement, as well as a style that would prove enormously influential on post-punk.





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CD 1: Station to Station 2010 transfer
"Station to Station" – 10:11
"Golden Years" – 4:02
"Word on a Wing" – 6:01
"TVC 15" – 5:31
"Stay" – 6:12
"Wild Is the Wind" – 6:02
2010 transfer of Station to Station from the original stereo analogue master in mini-replica sleeve.

CD 2 & 3: Live Nassau Coliseum '76
"Station to Station" – 11:53
"Suffragette City" – 3:31
"Fame" – 4:02
"Word on a Wing" – 6:06
"Stay" – 7:25
"Waiting for the Man" – 6:20
"Queen Bitch" – 3:12
"Life on Mars?" – 2:13
"Five Years" – 5:03
"Panic in Detroit" (with most of drum solo edited out) – 6:03
"Changes" (with band intro) – 4:11
"TVC 15" – 4:58
"Diamond Dogs" – 6:38
"Rebel Rebel" – 4:07
"The Jean Genie" – 7:28

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When Station To Station received its initial expansion as part of Rykodisc’s reissue campaign in 1991, it was increased by only two bonus cuts both pulled from a March 23, 1976 concert at Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale New York. For their extravagant deluxe reissue of David Bowie’s 1976 LP, those two bonus cuts have ballooned to two discs capturing the entire concert, and that’s just for the standard Special Edition. That SE runs three discs, the first devoted to an original analog master of Station To Station and the last two to the stellar Nassau Coliseum show, where Bowie finds a perfect balance of glam, soul and art. If that isn’t enough Station To Station for the diehards, there’s also the Deluxe Edition which is almost absurdly lavish, containing the three discs from the SE but adding the 1985 RCA CD master, which some audiophiles prefer to subsequent digital masters, a disc rounding up the single edits from the LP (including the first appearance of the “Word on a Wing” edit on CD and a previously unreleased edit of the title track), a DVD-Audio containing the original master, a 5.1 surround mix and a new stereo mix, all capped off by vinyl versions of the album proper and the Nassau Coliseum show. It is perhaps a little bit over the top for an album that is generally considered one of Bowie’s greatest but nevertheless lacks the mystique of Ziggy, Hunky Dory, Low or Heroes, but this Deluxe Edition surely delivers plenty of bang for fanatics with a deep pocketbook while the rest of us will be more than happy with the official release of the excellent Nassau Coliseum show.

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Hunky Dory and Ziggy links are slow/half-dead. Fuck it


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...And then Station to Station is where Bowie really gets great again. I love this album, especially "Golden Years" and "TVC 15". The whole thing is really great. This and Aladdin Sane are his best so far.


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...And then Station to Station is where Bowie really gets great again. I love this album, especially "Golden Years" and "TVC 15". The whole thing is really great. This and Aladdin Sane are his best so far.


I'm curious/excited to listen to this. It's been a long time since I've heard it, but I remember liking it for the most part.

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Was just reading that Roy Bittan played on this album...and as if on cue the most Bittan-esque piano erupted on "Word On A Wing"

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Hunky Dory and Ziggy links are slow/half-dead. Fuck it


It's possible that there may be other links out there in this Internet.

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...And then Station to Station is where Bowie really gets great again. I love this album, especially "Golden Years" and "TVC 15". The whole thing is really great. This and Aladdin Sane are his best so far.


I'm curious/excited to listen to this. It's been a long time since I've heard it, but I remember liking it for the most part.


It's the of the handful of Bowie albums I've always owned. I looped the title track 3x over today.

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Following through with the avant-garde inclinations of Station to Station, yet explicitly breaking with David Bowie's past, Low is a dense, challenging album that confirmed his place at rock's cutting edge. Driven by dissonant synthesizers and electronics, Low is divided between brief, angular songs and atmospheric instrumentals. Throughout the record's first half, the guitars are jagged and the synthesizers drone with a menacing robotic pulse, while Bowie's vocals are unnaturally layered and overdubbed. During the instrumental half, the electronics turn cool, which is a relief after the intensity of the preceding avant pop. Half the credit for Low's success goes to Brian Eno, who explored similar ambient territory on his own releases. Eno functioned as a conduit for Bowie's ideas, and in turn Bowie made the experimentalism of not only Eno but of the German synth group Kraftwerk and the post-punk group Wire respectable, if not quite mainstream. Though a handful of the vocal pieces on Low are accessible -- "Sound and Vision" has a shimmering guitar hook, and "Be My Wife" subverts soul structure in a surprisingly catchy fashion -- the record is defiantly experimental and dense with detail, providing a new direction for the avant-garde in rock & roll.


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The is one of the coolest fucking albums anybody has ever made. "Breaking Glass" is one of my favorite songs, and the whole A-side of this album (where all the songs where he actually sings are) is flat out perfect. And side 2 is awesome.


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I like everything on Side A but have never really been able to get into Side B. It never, ever felt experimental or groundbreaking to me: just boring and half conceived--like a lot of Bowie's work, it suffers from a lack of what the great Tim Gunn calls an "editing eye" (or ear I suppose)

It always fascinated (and I'll say it, horrified) me that Pitchfork had this as the #1 album of the 1970's in it's retrospective a few years back and I think I spent some time trying to figure out just what it was that was so much better than all the other things, but it never happened.

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Repeating the formula of Low's half-vocal/half-instrumental structure, Heroes develops and strengthens the sonic innovations David Bowie and Brian Eno explored on their first collaboration. The vocal songs are fuller, boasting harder rhythms and deeper layers of sound. Much of the harder-edged sound of Heroes is due to Robert Fripp's guitar, which provides a muscular foundation for the electronics, especially on the relatively conventional rock songs. Similarly, the instrumentals on Heroes are more detailed, this time showing a more explicit debt to German synth pop and European experimental rock. Essentially, the difference between Low and Heroes lies in the details, but the record is equally challenging and groundbreaking.

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Title cut is the only one I'm familiar with, and it is excellent.


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For Low and Heroes, the studio attendants were instructed to shit on the craft services table - it is all Bowie et al ate at the time.

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I've never heard Heroes, aside from the title track of course...

It's amazing to me how much some of this sounds like the Talking Heads (or vice versa I suppose); "Beauty and the Beast" and "Blackout" could come right off the second disc of The Name of This Band.... owes to the fairly small cross pollination between Robert Fripp and Adrian Belew (just read that while Fripp played on the album, Belew played on the tour, which shrinks the separation even more).

At any rate, this is pretty great right through "V-2 Schneider" and then it just hits a wall. Maybe Drinky can explain to me the redeeming qualities of tracks 7-9.

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Playing a bit of catch-up here...been listening daily if not always posting.

Station to Station is one of my favorite Bowie albums that for whatever reason I rarely play. Yet, every time I pull it out, I remember how much I really like it. Takes the faux soul from Young Americans and demolishes it with synths and studio magic and weirdness. His version of Wild is the Wind is epic.

Low I really liek as well and you can see where the studio stuff totally took over once Eno hopped on board. I tend to prefer side 2. I get why it gets so much attention, although the best album of the 70s seems a stretch as I don't even consider it Bowie's best album of the 70s much less the best period. But, it does really stretch things out. The vocal sides are sort of angular and disjointed to me though and if you look at my old album you can probably see that side 2 has worn noticeably more than side one.

Heroes, for me is a slightly wearer version of Low, but with one big bold exception in that the title track is as good as anything Bowie ever did and really, for me, ranks up there as one of the greatest songs ever. Again, on this one I am more drawn mostly to the instrumental tracks with that one grand exception.


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Maybe Drinky can explain to me the redeeming qualities of tracks 7-9.


Not really. These don't work for me like the instrumental stuff on Low does. "Sense of Doubt" is just too minimal for its own good. "Moss Garden" isn't bad, but again it doesn't quite have enough going for it. "Neukoln" is the best of the three because of the sax, but it's still not quite up to par with anything on Low. In general, I feel like this whole album is a lesser follow-up to that. Aside from the title track, "Joe the Lion", and "V-2 Schneider" (nice nod to Kraftwerk), I don't really care about any of it. It's weird to me how stuff like "Beauty and the Beast", "Blackout", and "The Secret Life of Arabia" doesn't work any better than it does. On paper they have a lot of similarities to stuff off of the last two albums, but they just seem kind of pointless and empty here. I've always felt like this album was pretty overrated, and given that I'm otherwise a big fan of this phase in Bowie's career, I've tried and tried to get more out of it. It's just not that good.

Back to side 2 of Low... I feel like I've probably already said plenty about this at one point or another. In a nutshell: I don't think you have to hear that stuff as being "experimental" or "important" to appreciate it. I think it's just good music. It's interesting. It has great textures and atmosphere, and there are event some solid melodies in most of it. It's just great-sounding stuff. The instrumentals on "Heroes", not so much.

Texturally, I think Low has much more of an edge to it. "Heroes" is much more measured and polished, and maybe that's why I find it so much less interesting and inspiring.


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On the surface, Lodger is the most accessible of the three Berlin-era records David Bowie made with Brian Eno, simply because there are no instrumentals and there are a handful of concise pop songs. Nevertheless, Lodger is still gnarled and twisted avant pop; what makes it different is how it incorporates such experimental tendencies into genuine songs, something that Low and Heroes purposely avoided. "D.J.," "Look Back in Anger," and "Boys Keep Swinging" have strong melodic hooks that are subverted and strengthened by the layered, dissonant productions, while the remainder of the record is divided between similarly effective avant pop and ambient instrumentals. Lodger has an edgier, more minimalistic bent than its two predecessors, which makes it more accessible for rock fans, as well as giving it a more immediate, emotional impact. It might not stretch the boundaries of rock like Low and Heroes, but it arguably utilizes those ideas in a more effective fashion.

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I love how all these reviews elevate Eno and discount Tony Visconti...Eno didn't produce these albums, Visconti did. (Not downplaying Eno's influence or importance per se, but come on, give Tony a break.)

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I'm pretty sure Eno had a lot more creative input than Visconti did. Eno's own records from just a little bit prior to these should be evidence enough of that.


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It's amazing to me how much some of this sounds like the Talking Heads (or vice versa I suppose)


This comparison was never more apparent than on "Lodger" IMO. Like you said, not sure if it was mutual admiration society or if Eno was playing those records for Bowie. But "DJ" even sounds like David Byrne singing to the point where I had to check to see if it was actually him.

I've been loosely following the thread but I've just got a bunch of other stuff I've been trying to check out.

But, of all the Berlin era albums I probably like "Low" the best but I only have "Lodger" and "Station To Station" on vinyl and have had them for less than a year. I've always been in the harry camp on "Low" in that I think the 2nd half absolutely makes the album. If it didn't include it it would probably be heralded as some sort of proto-punk landmark but adding that atmospheric side makes it something completely different.


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Lodger has always been my least favorite of the Eno era albums. It kind of reminds me of a summation album before moving on. Here, he kind of takes lots of the ideas and packages them up nicely and succinctly. But, for me as far as these styles go, the ideas work better when they roam a bit. Not a bad album at all or anything, but the one from this period I pull out the least and enjoy the least.


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