Where's That Hot Stove Thread?

Rick Derris · **Posted:** Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:05 pm

AJC reports:

Johnny Estrada traded to Diamondbacks for 2 pitchers, Lance Cormier and Oscar Villarreal.

I guess the Braves have faith in Brian McCann to start a whole year.

Postmersh · **Posted:** Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:06 pm

dr winston o'boogie Wrote:

Rick Derris Wrote:

I think paying Furcal that much is LAUGHABLE. Dodgers fans I don't think you're getting as good of a player as you think you are. He is pretty good but he'll go in the tank for a couple of months of the season.

I agree. I think he's maybe worth like $8MM/year not $13MM. And even at that salary, I don't really understand why the dodgers would be that interested in him. I'd rather have Iztaurus than him at short. It looks like they are trying to trade for Soriano now so where does Iztaurus play when he comes back. It doesn't make much sense to me.

I know they need a leadoff hitter but its seems clear that they are going to trade Milton Bradley so they're going to need a new OF'er. Why not just get one that can lead-off?

Because we would have to trade for one of those...
As I eep saying, Izzy just had Tommy John Surgery, and is out until at least the All-Star break. Having him play 2B (he originally came up at that position) would help save some wear on his arm, and upgrades the defense A LOT - Kent ain't the most fluid fielder, espec. at age 39...

The Raffy signing isn't the end of the Dodgers offseason - I mean, with Colletti/Little in the fold, Mueller @ 3B for the next year or 2 while LaRoche develops is a done deal... Either Kent or Bradley have to go out of town...and reports have the Dodgers rumored as going after everyone from Abreu to Soriano...
Hopefully Kent goes bye-bye for a decent #4 (Can't believe Kent + bullpen arm for Benson + prospect(s) hasn't been brought up yet), Soriano comes into the fold, and Little can get another Fantasy team into the playoffs and beyond. Remember, he wouldn't have to play the Yanks until at least the World Series...

Current Dodgers Lineup (before trades):

SS Furcal
3B Mueller
CF Drew
1B (or 2B) Kent
RF Bradley
1B Hee Sop Choi / 2B A. Perez / 2B Izturis
LF Jason Werth / Jose Cruz Jr.
C Navarro

Current Dodgers Rotation:

Penny
Lowe
Od. Perez
D. Houlton
E. Jackson

With Broxton, Sanchez, and Brazoban leading up to Gagne in the bullpen

Needs a bit of refinement, but not a bad squad, if you ask me...

OPA! · **Posted:** Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:06 pm

Rick Derris Wrote:

AJC reports:

Johnny Estrada traded to Diamondbacks for 2 pitchers, Lance Cormier and Oscar Villarreal.

I guess the Braves have faith in Brian McCann to start a whole year.

If Mazzone was still the pitching coach, I'd say this was a great trade for the Braves. But now, who knows?

OPA! · **Posted:** Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:31 pm

The Padres have just made a couple of puzzling trades.

They traded Mark Loretta to the Red Sox for Doug Mirabelli. And Sean Burroughs to the Devil Rays for Dewon Brazelton. Very lopsided trades, IMO.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

OPA_SaidTheGreek Wrote:

The Padres have just made a couple of puzzling trades.

They traded Mark Loretta to the Red Sox for Doug Mirabelli. And Sean Burroughs to the Devil Rays for Dewon Brazelton. Very lopsided trades, IMO.

I think they're trying to free up salary to re-sign Trevor Hoffman. They may not be equal trades talent-wise, but it accomplishes that and gives them a catcher since I guess they are losing one via free agency?

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:36 pm

Rick Derris Wrote:

AJC reports:

Johnny Estrada traded to Diamondbacks for 2 pitchers, Lance Cormier and Oscar Villarreal.

I guess the Braves have faith in Brian McCann to start a whole year.

I wonder if we're gonna bring back Eddie P. to back up or if they got something else up their sleeves?

Always like Estrada but he was real banged up last year and never really got it.

Welp, close the book on the Kevin Millwood trade.

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

[quote="OPA_SaidTheGreek"]And Sean Burroughs to the Devil Rays for Dewon Brazelton. [/quote]

Considering they were going to trade Burroughs for a career .180 hitter last year it's not that

Black Magic Putin · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:36 am

Alfonso Soriano to the Nats for Brad Wilkerson and two other guys.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2251887

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

White Sox trade Damaso Marte for Rob Mackowiak. Freeing up money to sign Mike Myers as well. Awesome trade.

Elvis Fu · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:39 pm

Baltimore Sun was reporting that the Orioles are impressed with Frank Thomas and are looking to offer an incentive-based contract.

Told you so. The don't want to fucking learn.

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

the Athletics are supposedly already going to sign him.

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

oh yeah, renteria to the braves. soriano to the nationals

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:58 pm

STRIKE LIGHTNING, STRIKE Wrote:

oh yeah, renteria to the braves.

believe I called that one yesterday

STRIKE LIGHTNING, STRIKE Wrote:

soriano to the nationals

WHO THE FUCK APPROVED THIS TRADE? I mean, nobody....well everybody owns the Nats. How long is this going to go on?

Its baffling but then again--its baseball.

MontyTheMongoose · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:01 pm

Overbay to Jays for David Bush, Gabe Gross, and minor-league southpaw Zach Jackson (the greatest name ever to be linked to the Brewers, by the by).

ZACH JACKSON!

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

Yail Bloor Wrote:

STRIKE LIGHTNING, STRIKE Wrote:

soriano to the nationals

WHO THE FUCK APPROVED THIS TRADE? I mean, nobody....well everybody owns the Nats. How long is this going to go on?

Its baffling but then again--its baseball.

The Nationals rule, they beat the Cubs like 15 times. They were basically Cleveland from Major League, too.

Odds Bodkins · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:50 pm

Mackowiak for Marte. What's latin for head case?

I'd like Myers and I know KW loves him. GETRDONE!

MontyTheMongoose · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:09 pm

Slapford Wrote:

GETRDONE!

Go. To. Hell.

Flying Rabbit · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:12 pm

Orioles picked up Ramon Hernandez...baring any unforseen physical findings.

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

MYERS TO THE YANKS. FUCK

Odds Bodkins · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:13 pm

STRIKE LIGHTNING, STRIKE Wrote:

MYERS TO THE YANKS. FUCK

Yep... guess it's Ron Villone, Chris Hammond or we go with what we got.

Odds Bodkins · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:16 pm

montythemongoose Wrote:

Slapford Wrote:

GETRDONE!

Go. To. Hell.

Ga?

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

SLAPFORD WHO THE F R U?

Odds Bodkins · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:19 pm

Was Rudylaw/Odds/Optical/et al.

Odds Bodkins · **Posted:** Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:28 pm

Mueller to the Dodgers.

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

good pickup for the dodgers, the Sox wanted Mueller as a back up but it would have cockhurt him too much

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