Since no one else will, I'll mourn for the sub captain and the guy Lapidus knocked out when they first boarded. I love how Hurley was asking "what about Sayid" but apparently didn't care about Lapidus or the crew.

no one else thought to maybe throw the C4 in a torpedo tube?

sweet videogum

Maybe there wasn't time to fire it off that quickly?

It wouldn't have made for a convenient way to kill off four characters at once?

Uh, yeah. Femdisco's quote during that whole scene was "hey asshole, what about your daughter?"



My exact thought. And Drinky's explanation of quick (cheap) way to get rid of 4 characters is the only explanation. Also, Lapidus will be missed, especially since he was the only pilot on the island.

OK, so that Richard origin episode gave us fair warning, I guess. This was laughably bad at parts. And yet oddly entertaining, like almost the whole series if we're really being honest about it. I found myself glued to the set regardless of how stupid the glowing cave was and how mindless every "explanation" for everything was. In fact, at this point I can't even say I'm disappointed. It's been said many times by many people, but the joy of this show has always been in the mysteries themselves and no great explanation can ever really live up to our expectations. Maybe something a little more sci-fi and less vaguely mythic, magical, and flat-out generic would have helped, though.

I will say that the one thing this really did well is totally dispel the whole light v dark/good v evil notion and somehow manage to reintroduce some moral ambiguity into the whole thing even after Smokey's acts of seemingly pure evil last week. It seems to cast into doubt that even Jacob has ever really known what was really going on with the island. It also seems a little unclear as to whether or not the smoke monster is really Jacob's brother or has just been impersonating him all along like he has with other dead people. I suppose there's still a little more of this origin story that will be revealed in the final episode.

Kid actors, man. Between them and the glowing cave, parts of this episode were borderline laughable. But I do enjoy learning more about the mythology, so overall I enjoyed it.

Borderline laughable?

Allison Janney stole two babies to guard a glowing cave. Oh yeah, that clears up everything.

Absolute bottom-of-the-barrel dreck. This show is now lower than Two and a Half Men.

In this episode, we were introduced to the mysterious woman who raised Jacob and the Man in Black from birth as if they were her own children. It’s amazing how much we’ve already learned about her in such a short amount of time, such as…

• She might be Mother Nature, which would make Jacob and his seemingly-unnamed brother Snow Miser and Heat Miser, respectively.
• She is particularly enamored with blunt force trauma to the head.
• She is not enamored at all with pregnant women, especially post-delivery.
• She is responsible for establishing the brothers’ lifelong “Spy vs. Spy” clothing motif. (Apparently, she didn’t have ready access to a set of horns and a halo.)
• She can seal up a giant donkey wheel construction hole faster than an entire armada of backhoes.
• She (like Jacob, many years later) is only suceptible to stabbing by an electromagnetically-charged magic dagger.
• She distrusts humanity, but believes in the power of unrefrigerated island hooch.
• Her homeschooling curriculum is more narrowly-focused and revisionist than what’s taught at a garden-variety Yearning for Zion compound.
• She basically looked at Jacob in much the same way Mary Tyler Moore did Timothy Hutton in Ordinary People.

I wouldn't go that far. On the bright side, only two more episodes to go for you.

Why I keep watching this mess is beyond me. But, one thing I got from last night, after all that shit treatment from the non-mom and her lackey non-son Jakey boy, fuckin let the smoke go free man.

I liked this point from another blog.

Yeah, I agree that some of this mythology explanation is a bit tedious and disappointing, but at this point we still don't know what the glow really is, aside from a source of electromagnetism and maybe the writers never tell us. Just because some cave-dwelling woman speaks some profundity about what the light is doesn't necessarily make it true. Technically speaking, electromagnetism does lie in all of us and gives us life, it's just a really Gaia way of saying it.

I thought it was pretty clear that Jacob's brother is as dead as Locke and Christian Shepard.

Well that doesn't mean that the smoke monster isn't him, though. It still seems to be operating under his motivations. But it clearly isn't just him. It's either some ancient evil thing pretending to be him, or it's him (his spirit or whatever) combined with some ancient evil thing.

Also, how is it that Jacob was "allowed" to kill his brother? Or was he not actually dead when he entered the cave, and the cave basically separated his spirit from his body, or something?

God, this is hardly worth talking about anymore.

The main thing that bugged me was Juno's stepmom telling them she's made it so they can't hurt each other, then Jacob proceeds to beat the shit out of the Boy in Black, bloodying his face on two separate occasions immediately thereafter.

Great show.

Long but somewhat informative interview with Darlton from Alan Sepinwall: http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan- ... ss-the-sea

Though a lot of it is them basically saying variations of "this is how we are doing our show, sorry if you don't like it."

Do they like it?

I'm not generally a fan of reading any analysis of this show - or anything with any potential spoilers - but I think this really helps in keeping this week's episode and the show in general from seeming so unsatisfying:

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/05/thi ... .html#more

I did think it was an entertaining episode, but I also felt a little cheated and underwhelmed with what seemed like a bunch of lame, uninteresting "revelations". But there was a apparently a lot that I missed or didn't read enough into. Assuming that this guy is at least 75% on target here, I think that Jacob and MIB/smoke monster are now much better and more interesting characters than they had previously seemed. It feels like less of cheat now that they're at the core of the show rather than so many other things we were teased with over the past 6 years. But we'll see how it all plays out.

SERIOUSLY!

Hysterical how 6 years of my life were sucked into the glowing nonsense cave and the bad peasant costumes.

the wife and I are about 7 episodes behind right now...just can never find the proper time or motivation to watch, but i guess we better do so..we only got a few weeks left.

Suddenly it seems so black and white. Or not so black and white. Grey.

Thanks for posting that, Drinky. I read it, and it really did help improve my opinion of the episode and the general direction the show is taking here in the home stretch.