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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:57 am 
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  • Maybe I’m missing something, but why is it Ben was able to kill Widmore in the closet bunker, after he was unable to do so in Widmore’s condo after Alex was executed by Keamy?
  • And regarding the closet bunker scene, while I don’t typically revel in seeing characters murdered, it wasn’t altogether unpleasant to see the annoying Zoe take a Crocodile Dundee knife to the jugular courtesy of The Locke-Ness Monster.
  • I can sum up why sideways world is better than the island in two words: SUPER BRAN!
  • Has any character in any TV series ever absorbed (and deserved) more brutal beatings to the face than Ben Linus? (HINT: No.)
  • Of all the potential LOST spinoffs, I think the best one would be a buddy cop show with Sawyer and Miles.
  • There have been many, many extremely shocking things take place during the six seasons this show’s been on the air, but none quite as shocking as seeing a totally cleaned-up Danielle Rousseau…in a DRESS. I doubt anything short of seeing anorexic Hurley sporting a crewcut could possibly ever compare.
  • It sure was great to see Ana Lucia again, right? Anyone??? Yeah, me neither.
  • Jack sewing up Kate’s wound kind of brings everything full circle from when Kate sewed up Jack’s wound back at the beginning of the series.
  • Seeing Jacob, Jack, Sawyer, Kate and Hurley sitting around the campfire, I kept waiting for them to roast s’mores and start singing “We are the C.I.T.s” from Meatballs.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:02 am 
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So, after years of building up Whitmore as the big bad guy, they dismiss it with a wave of Jacob's off-screen hand. Great.

I love how Jack tells Sawyer what Sayid said, then later asks Sawyer what Sayid said. It was bad enough when they were contradicting earlier episodes; now it's in the same episode!

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:20 am 
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So, after years of building up Whitmore as the big bad guy, they dismiss it with a wave of Jacob's off-screen hand. Great.


I know this show has taken retconning to a new level, but I'm not sure that Widmore was ever clearly being set up as the bad guy. There was always a lot of moral ambiguity in his rivalry with Ben.

But yeah, I don't understand why Ben was suddenly able to kill Widmore, unless as someone has suggested, none of the supposed rules imposed by Jacob or his mother are actually physically binding. And we've seen these rules being broken at least as far back as Keamy shooting Alex, but perhaps Ben was unable to kill Widmore in his Condo because Ben still believed that the rules held some kind of power. He probably believed this up until the point he killed Jacob.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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Are we sure Widmore is dead? If the Island isn't "done with him" he may rejuvenate? Maybe it's too late for that...


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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I think he's definitely dead. Only one that's questionable is Richard, but I think he's probably dead, too.


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i enjoyed seeing ana lucia. "tubby"

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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some of those fan letters were real embarrassing.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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some of those fan letters were real embarrassing.


That smoke monster/fire alarm commercial was worse.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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still in wtf mode... enjoyed the ride (mostly), not sure in the destination.

Not to spoil, but I got turned on about the hole must be filled by a hard rock to produce the magical spew whatever... eesh.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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I'm glad I recorded it cuz I'm gonna have to re-watch it.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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i don't even understand what happened at the end.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:09 am 
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Still trying to decide what I think about it on the whole. A lot of mixed feelings for sure and how they "resolved" things. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't really, really enjoy those 2.5 hours.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:12 am 
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So there was no why about the island or its existence.

Someone put the following in Garspeak, please:

Oh Jack and his friends are in Heaven.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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So there was no why about the island or its existence.


I didn't really think we'd get this anyway.

My primary disappointments (spoilers, naturally):

1. The whole parallel world = afterlife thing
2. The return to simple Good vs. Evil, pretty much disregarding all the moral ambiguity introduced in the Jacob/MIB origin ep.
3. The way Jack was able to kill Smokey/Locke
4. Sawyer's general uselessness/lack of any real heroic/redeeming moments
5. Moving a big rock in a cave/Desmond's use as a "weapon"
6. The generally anti-climactic effect that #1 had on the events on the island. As Desmond said, they didn't really matter.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:35 am 
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3. The way Jack was able to kill Smokey/Locke


Do you mean that he was able to kill him at all or were you disappointed in the way in which it was done? He was able to kill him because Desmond removed the rock from the hole and that made them both mortal I think. Certainly the fight scene on the rock that ultimately did Locke/Smoke Monster in was quite lame.

Overall, I'm still processing like it seems most are. I definitely feel unfulfilled which I knew I would but I think I'm even more disappointed than I thought I'd be.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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Lame ending. I'm not awake enough to be coherent and articulate my thoughts clearly yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:52 am 
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Do you mean that he was able to kill him at all or were you disappointed in the way in which it was done? He was able to kill him because Desmond removed the rock from the hole and that made them both mortal I think. Certainly the fight scene on the rock that ultimately did Locke/Smoke Monster in was quite lame.


I was disappointed in how it was done. I got that he was rendered mortal by Desmond removing the stone, but I guess I just thought that was kind of lame. It ended up meaning that the smoke monster wasn't some ancient primal force that had fused with the MIB but was rather something that he was transformed into. And that was OK, I guess, but it didn't seem to serve any purpose. The island created something that wanted to destroy it? It made more sense to me that Smokey actually was a defense mechanism, but fused with the MIB, it became subverted to his desire for revenge/escape. And yeah, the knife fight on the cliff was just kind of lame and unsatisfying.

Oddly enough, though, I don't really feel disappointed. If anything, this season had lessened my expectations, but I still think this was some pretty entertaining TV as far as that goes. Not everything can be Mad Men or The Wire or whatever, and as a huge fantasy/mystery/adventure thing, this was unparalleled.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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  • I'm sure people found many things to complain about in the series finale, but my only complaint is that Faraday and DriveShaft didn't break into a dramatically overwrought version of "November Rain."
  • Hurley + Ben = BFF
  • If Juliet's maiden name was Burke and her married (divorced) name was Shephard, then where did the last name of Carlson come from?
  • So, it turns out it wasn't Jacob who had been protecting the island all these years, but actually an enormous hieroglyphic-covered stone tampon.
  • Glad we got to see Vincent in the finale, even though Michael and Walt were inexplicably nowhere to be found - not even in the pews at Our Lady of Perpetual Metaphors.
  • Remember how The Brady Bunch eventually resurfaced as a TV-movie years after the series went off the air, in order to show the kids getting married? What's the over-under on how many years before we see the inevitable wedding of Aaron and Ji-Yeon? LOST: THE NEXT GENERATION!
  • For years now, even though he's been off the show forever, my all-time favorite character has been Mr. Eko. But now that the series is over, I think Eko's been overtaken by Lapidus. Is there anything that bastard pilot can't do???
  • All in all, I was mostly pleased with the finale. No, it didn't come close to answering all my questions, and it wasn't exactly the happy ending I was hoping for, but all things considered it was a fitting end to an excellent series. Not everyone might feel the same, but I found the past six years to be an brilliantly-crafted and exhilarating adventure. There were ups and downs, but the ultimate result was without question one of the finest achievements in television history. Thanks for the ride!
  • P.S. I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad I don't have to write these "LOST Thoughts" anymore! I really painted myself into a corner with this crap!

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:15 am 
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Glad we got to see Vincent in the finale, even though Michael and Walt were inexplicably nowhere to be found - not even in the pews at Our Lady of Perpetual Metaphors.


My roommate and I got into a very brief, commercial-break conversation about how the creators of the show are racists. None of the major black characters from the past 6 years were brought back for the finale.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:16 am 
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Rose was there.


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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andyfest Wrote:
Do you mean that he was able to kill him at all or were you disappointed in the way in which it was done? He was able to kill him because Desmond removed the rock from the hole and that made them both mortal I think. Certainly the fight scene on the rock that ultimately did Locke/Smoke Monster in was quite lame.


I was disappointed in how it was done. I got that he was rendered mortal by Desmond removing the stone, but I guess I just thought that was kind of lame. It ended up meaning that the smoke monster wasn't some ancient primal force that had fused with the MIB but was rather something that he was transformed into. And that was OK, I guess, but it didn't seem to serve any purpose. The island created something that wanted to destroy it? It made more sense to me that Smokey actually was a defense mechanism, but fused with the MIB, it became subverted to his desire for revenge/escape. And yeah, the knife fight on the cliff was just kind of lame and unsatisfying.

I hadn't really thought about how weird it is that the island would create something that wanted to destroy it, that's a good point.

Although I didn't love the introduction of Jacob/MIB being good vs. evil at first, the idea grew on me. In the end, I was pretty disappointed with the way they handled it, though. I thought it was set up to be that one sort of balances the other out and that's why there's good and evil in humanity (since the island was supposed to be the source of life whatever). Instead, they both die and their existences specifically don't really matter. I mean, life goes on just as it always did for everyone else after they're gone and there's no less evil in the world because MIB is dead. Now, Hurley is in charge of the island but apparently isn't immortal because he was there at the end with the rest of them going to heaven. Is that right?

I'm sure I've missed something somewhere but that's how I came away disappointed with the finale. I didn't ruin the show for me or anything, I still think Lost is one of the best shows ever, I just think the end fell pretty flat overall.

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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Glad we got to see Vincent in the finale, even though Michael and Walt were inexplicably nowhere to be found - not even in the pews at Our Lady of Perpetual Metaphors.


My roommate and I got into a very brief, commercial-break conversation about how the creators of the show are racists. None of the major black characters from the past 6 years were brought back for the finale.


Um, Rose?

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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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No. Just no.

It's apparent there must have been an original plan for the series that only lasted 3 or 4 seasons. When the show became a hit they decided two things: 1) K-CHING! There's money to be made if we extend this thing as long as possible, and 2) the general viewership are such a throng of suckers they'll eat whatever we give them.

This last episode sold out the entire premise of the show. It essentially told us that nothing mattered... that Jacob, MIB, Walt, the Others, the Dharma Initiative, the polar bear, EVERYTHING meant exactly as much as the episodes this season in the temple. Did you notice that Flocke suddenly had a game-changing new quest? Destroy the island? Where the hell did that come from? That means Lindelof and Cuse didn't even have a clue where they were going until, at best, the penultimate episode. And that ending. Goddammit, that's the equivalent of "And then he woke up and it was all a dream". That was the lamest thing they could have done, and they did it.

The only mystery left is why they felt they needed to end this at all. It was still high in the ratings. Surely there was more money to suck out of it. Why not keep piling on more magic, nonsensical bullshit for an indefinite number of seasons? It's not like they could RUIN it, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Lost: The Final Season
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I guess we'll never know how electromagnetic fields inhibit cancer while promoting neural regeneration.

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