Lost: The Final Season

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 11:44 am

andyfest Wrote:

Now, Hurley is in charge of the island but apparently isn't immortal because he was there at the end with the rest of them going to heaven. Is that right?

I think the immortality thing is temporary (even Jacob wasn't entirely immortal, after all), and we really have no idea how long Hurley was protector of the island. It could have been centuries.

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 11:46 am

DumpJack Wrote:

I guess we'll never know how electromagnetic fields inhibit cancer while promoting neural regeneration.

Faith.

DumpJack · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 11:48 am

Radcliffe Wrote:

DumpJack Wrote:

I guess we'll never know how electromagnetic fields inhibit cancer while promoting neural regeneration.

Faith.

Let's gussy that up a bit and I'll submit it to a bioelectromagnetics journal.

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 11:49 am

Yeah, too bad this show didn't yield any actual scientific or medical breakthroughs. Then people might actually be satisfied with all that hard work they invested into watching this TV show over the past 6 years.

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 12:02 pm

Drinky Wrote:

Yeah, too bad this show didn't yield any actual scientific or medical breakthroughs. Then people might actually be satisfied with all that hard work they invested into watching this TV show over the past 6 years.

You're so right, Drinky. We should just accept what's fed to us and LIKE it.

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 12:07 pm

Now what really I'm saying, and I have plenty of complaints.

You can just find way more relevant ones than that.

Hegel · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 12:11 pm

FT Wrote:

Hegel Wrote:

FT Wrote:

Glad we got to see Vincent in the finale, even though Michael and Walt were inexplicably nowhere to be found - not even in the pews at Our Lady of Perpetual Metaphors.

My roommate and I got into a very brief, commercial-break conversation about how the creators of the show are racists. None of the major black characters from the past 6 years were brought back for the finale.

Um, Rose?

It was mostly a joke, and we did address Rose's presence. She was married to a white guy; thus, she's not really black. haha

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 12:18 pm

Eko, Michael, and Walt represent plotlines that prove the show fucked up its own plan. Better to completely ignore their existence in the finale than risk reminding the viewers that there were previous seasons.

DumpJack · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 12:22 pm

Drinky Wrote:

Yeah, too bad this show didn't yield any actual scientific or medical breakthroughs. Then people might actually be satisfied with all that hard work they invested into watching this TV show over the past 6 years.

I'm fucking kidding, drinky. Jesus, lighten up. Although as a fan of the more sciencey aspects they invested in, I'm a little disappointed that it wasn't tied up any further than Sideways Faraday's physics scribblings.

Hegel · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 12:25 pm

I am with you on this Radcliffe. I thought it was a weak ending and was the easiest way out possible. I also echo Drinky's thoughts about the smoke monster being just some thing created by electro-magnetism rather than some sort of island defense/MIB creation. Would have been so much better.

Overall though, we were left with no explanation of what the island was. To use FTs terminology here, the giant stone tampon kept the electro-magnetism in check but ultimately the island was just as meaningless as the lives of all the characters. If what Ben said was right about how people not being able to leave, etc was "Jacob's way of doing things" then the island itself really was entirely inconsequential. So we're left with, "hey everybody, Jack and all his friends are in heaven and they love each other". Way to take a "character-driven show", ignore most of the tough (and arguably most interesting) plot points and tie it up into a nice little box with a pretty pink bow. I'd rather have had Lindeloff and Cuse light a bag of their shit on fire on my tv set then be satisfied with that finale.

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 12:30 pm

I'm not sure the show ever really had a plan until Season 4 or about halfway through Season 3. And I'm pretty sure they hadn't really figured out how to end it until halfway through Season 5. I think they made up Seasons 1 & 2 as they went and were pretty much able to get away with it because they could always delay explaining things until later. I'll never forget how frustrating most of Season 2 was where I was desperately wanting answers to so many things from Season 1, but instead the show just kept piling on more mysteries, characters, and plot lines.

I think reactions to this ending may be split along the lines of when people started watching the show. I think for those of us that actually started 5 or 6 years ago and have watched it unfold week by week, we know that it was rough going for several long stretches along the way. I was about ready to give up on it in the first half of Season 3. But I think the reason that I stuck around wasn't the promise of some awesome ending or great explanation, but rather the fact that I enjoyed the characters and the whole world of the island.

bitterbuffalo · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 1:08 pm

Drinky Wrote:

I'm not sure the show ever really had a plan until Season 4 or about halfway through Season 3. And I'm pretty sure they hadn't really figured out how to end it until halfway through Season 5. I think they made up Seasons 1 & 2 as they went and were pretty much able to get away with it because they could always delay explaining things until later. I'll never forget how frustrating most of Season 2 was where I was desperately wanting answers to so many things from Season 1, but instead the show just kept piling on more mysteries, characters, and plot lines.

I think reactions to this ending may be split along the lines of when people started watching the show. I think for those of us that actually started 5 or 6 years ago and have watched it unfold week by week, we know that it was rough going for several long stretches along the way. I was about ready to give up on it in the first half of Season 3. But I think the reason that I stuck around wasn't the promise of some awesome ending or great explanation, but rather the fact that I enjoyed the characters and the whole world of the island.

Bingo. This was always a great character-driven show and ended as such. Any all-encompassing answers would have been even more ridiculous than some of the answers already were (the whispers in the jungle...oooooo). I have been watching religiously since episode 1 and I feel satisfied.

shiv · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 1:14 pm

I'm glad the ending is causing CHH for some people.

saint · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:28 pm **Posts:** 4271

Radcliffe Wrote:

No. Just no.

It's apparent there must have been an original plan for the series that only lasted 3 or 4 seasons. When the show became a hit they decided two things: 1) K-CHING! There's money to be made if we extend this thing as long as possible, and 2) the general viewership are such a throng of suckers they'll eat whatever we give them.

This last episode sold out the entire premise of the show. It essentially told us that nothing mattered... that Jacob, MIB, Walt, the Others, the Dharma Initiative, the polar bear, EVERYTHING meant exactly as much as the episodes this season in the temple. Did you notice that Flocke suddenly had a game-changing new quest? Destroy the island? Where the hell did that come from? That means Lindelof and Cuse didn't even have a clue where they were going until, at best, the penultimate episode. And that ending. Goddammit, that's the equivalent of "And then he woke up and it was all a dream". That was the lamest thing they could have done, and they did it.

The only mystery left is why they felt they needed to end this at all. It was still high in the ratings. Surely there was more money to suck out of it. Why not keep piling on more magic, nonsensical bullshit for an indefinite number of seasons? It's not like they could RUIN it, right?

AGREED. Total awful ending. This season was garbage.

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 1:38 pm

OK, that settles it. Awesome ending.

saint · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:28 pm **Posts:** 4271

blow my smoke monster, drinky.

it sucked.

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 1:42 pm

You make a compelling argument, as usual!

wenchlette · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 1:46 pm

There were things that could have come together better, been answered or explained more, but getting your panties in a bunch and declaring Lost a waste of anyone's time is a bit much. It was an entertaining television show. Actually, the fact that its end is evoking such negative reactions from some probably speaks to its strength throughout the series if nothing else.

I had to digest, but overall I think the ending was fitting for the show. It started with the characters and ended with them.

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 1:47 pm

bitterbuffalo Wrote:

This was always a great character-driven show and ended as such. Any all-encompassing answers would have been even more ridiculous than some of the answers already were (the whispers in the jungle...oooooo). I have been watching religiously since episode 1 and I feel satisfied.

It's great that you're satisfied, but to call Lost character-driven suggests you were watching a different show. Lost cliffhangers were all about plot (the hatch, the bomb, Walt's kidnapping, the tanker, etc.) because it was clearly a plot-driven show.

And you can't excuse the series from providing an all-encompassing answer based on the ridiculousness of the few answers that were given. What you're saying is that every time they explained something it was retarded, so best not to explain anything? I guess that makes you the ideal tv audience.

There should have been an ending with a clear, simple answer rather than a jumble of arbitrary rules and notions. And, like I said earlier, I think there was exactly that at the beginning, but they sold it out to extend the series.

wenchlette · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 1:48 pm

I'm going to have to watch it again, though, I think.

saint · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:28 pm **Posts:** 4271

Drinky Wrote:

You make a compelling argument, as usual!

brevity is the soul of wit. :wave:

saint · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:28 pm **Posts:** 4271

someone at work said she thought they all died in the original planecrash and the whole gd show was some time of purgatory.

did anyone get that from the ending?

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 1:55 pm

wenchlette Wrote:

Actually, the fact that its end is evoking such negative reactions from some probably speaks to its strength throughout the series if nothing else.

No, it speaks to the strength of the central mystery in the premise and how thoroughly the show betrayed it.

wenchlette Wrote:

It started with the characters and ended with them.

Show me a story that doesn't do this.

saint · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:28 pm **Posts:** 4271

agreed.

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 1:56 pm

Saint Wrote:

someone at work said she thought they all died in the original planecrash and the whole gd show was some time of purgatory.

did anyone get that from the ending?

Kill her. For her own good.

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