2005 disappointing follow-ups

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:38 pm

The Dreaded Marco Wrote:

Slight disappointments: M83

Yeah, that was kind of a letdown.

Also disappointing:
Magnolia Electric Co. - What Comes After the Blues

rogneeb · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:07 pm **Posts:** 12618

gotta agree on Doves.

The New Pornos is awesome and Spoon is pretty great too.

Also think The Decemberists follow up was a big step forward.

Dalen · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:47 pm

I can see how many people aren't feeling the Doves album. I'll admit that as a whole it's not as good as The Last Broadcast, but the songs on it that i do dig, i can still listen to today, and i enjoy them greatly. A few of the tracks are probably the best they've ever written [Almost Forgot Myself, Sky Sky Stars Falling].

Letdowns for me this year....

M83
Sleater Kinney
Super Furry Animals
Mercury Rev
Sufjan Stevens

a few more, but...

HideousLump · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:35 pm

Page 2 and nobody's mentioned ...Trail of Dead?

Not that I think its a disappointment--more like "grower of the year" to me, but how you gonna follow up ST&C?

hey look · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:37 pm

mars volta
daft punk
ash
trail of dead
ben folds
cocorosie
dose one
fog (my biggest disappointment, probably)
gorillaz
queens of the stone age
sole
spoon
teenage fanclub
the books
the pernice brothers

paper · **Posted:** Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:51 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

djdan Wrote:

Spoon, Gimme Fiction – I truly don’t understand the raves for this album. I understand that Spoon is great but this record doesn’t hold a candle to anything else in their catalog for me.

With the release of each of their albums, Spoon have been taken to task for not "being as good as the last one." Time, so far, has proven the naysayers wrong on every complaint. Personally, I don't see that Gimme Fiction will be any different. When the next Spoon album is released, every review will start out with the phrase "what made Gimme Fiction so great..." (and then go on to compare the new one unfavorably). With the exception of "Was It You?", GF is as perfect a Spoon album as one could hope for.

truth.

energy for everyone · **Posted:** Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:12 am

sfa's still a great band, even if you think their new album is a disappointment. but that's just my take. I happen to like every album they've released for whatever reason. Maybe I'm just really fond of their live show.

Borg166 · **Posted:** Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:31 am

Mars Volta
Daft Punk
Longwave
Royksopp
Missy Elliott (Only 2 Timbaland tracks?)
Prefuse 73

Dusty Chalk · **Posted:** Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:49 am

djdan Wrote:

Doves, Some Cities – Dalen’s going to vehemently disagree, but this album, outside of the title track is completely forgettable. Have you ever seen a buzz on a band die so quickly?

Um...yeah, it was called The Last Broadcast. New Order's album is malarky.

Sigur Ros is an exception. I like that album a lot. Not sure if it will make my top 10, but it's definitely a grower.

Sketch · **Posted:** Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:25 am

M83
Daft Punk
Prefuse 73
Mars Volta
Gorillaz

missed expectations but not by much:
Doves
Sufjan Stevens
QOTSA
Coldplay

exceeded expectations:
Beck
Low
Bright Eyes (Wide Awake...)

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:38 pm

I don't know what i expected from MMJ, but am listening to it right now, and it is fucking awesome. Some weird/interesting choices (Like during "Off the REcord, when they bring in AIR to finish the song?) but Jebus this is awesome. Same as the last one, will be a great fall chill out album (Though Fall IS NEVER COMING TO SOUTH ALABAMA!)

P-Spot · **Joined:** Tue Dec 07, 2004 12:30 am **Posts:** 291

Wouldn't that technically be Magnolia Electric Co.'s first album since it's the first release under that name other then the live album.

two guns holla · **Posted:** Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:56 pm

Senator <> LooGAR Wrote:

I don't know what i expected from MMJ, but am listening to it right now, and it is fucking awesome. Some weird/interesting choices (Like during "Off the REcord, when they bring in AIR to finish the song?) but Jebus this is awesome. Same as the last one, will be a great fall chill out album (Though Fall IS NEVER COMING TO SOUTH ALABAMA!)

When I saw them a few months ago (before I had heard the record),"Off the Record" simply destroyed live. I wasn't so sure about the drum machine, but when they shredded through an extended outro for the song, I was sold.

I loved It Still Moves and I really like Z, just in a different way. Top 3 of the year for me.

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:24 pm

P-Spot Wrote:

Wouldn't that technically be Magnolia Electric Co.'s first album since it's the first release under that name other then the live album.

Yeah, whatever, but in reality it's the first proper follow-up to S:O's Magnolia Electric Co.

edit: On the subject of MMJ, It Still Moves never did much for me. Z seems much better although it may also be a little too long (one of the main drawbacks to ISM).

KPH · **Posted:** Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:27 pm

I think the Doves record is pretty darn good. Not as darn good as that damn Last Broadcast. But pretty darn alright. Very craftsmanlike.

On the whole though, my vibe on most of the albums in this thread is either negative or just generally disinterested.

Liked enough to buy:
Sufjan
M83
Sigur Ros
Bands local to Boston

Could see listening to in the van and not outright hating (err, background music):
Spoon
New Porn
SFA (but come on, they make some of the most tolerable music, so this is redundant)
M. Ward

Yeah, so. Follow-ups was the topic, right?

shiv · **Posted:** Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:14 pm

Super Furry Animals
Hot Hot Heat (2 good songs)
Green Day (not that I like them anymore but their last 2 singles off the new album have been embarrassing)
Weezer (truly awful)

NIN (I wrote them off after The Fragile but With Teeth is pretty good, though it probably won't make my year end list)

ptrck · **Joined:** Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:55 pm **Posts:** 5568

energy for everyone Wrote:

sfa's still a great band, even if you think their new album is a disappointment. but that's just my take. I happen to like every album they've released for whatever reason. Maybe I'm just really fond of their live show.

Of course, but read the title of the thread.

ptrck · **Joined:** Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:55 pm **Posts:** 5568

Senator <> LooGAR Wrote:

I don't know what i expected from MMJ, but am listening to it right now, and it is fucking awesome. Some weird/interesting choices (Like during "Off the REcord, when they bring in AIR to finish the song?) but Jebus this is awesome. Same as the last one, will be a great fall chill out album (Though Fall IS NEVER COMING TO SOUTH ALABAMA!)

I agree that this record is excellent. I think it is their best work, but perhaps it is just the one that I like the most. Regardless...

OPA! · **Posted:** Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:48 am

Anyone who thinks M. Ward's follow up is a disappointment must be stoned or just plain dumb.

harry · **Posted:** Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:57 pm

I always thought the music-lovers conceptual use "follow up" was either for a second release (sophomore...often jinx) or after a breakthrough smash hit.

So... we talk about Sufjan.... I think Illinoise is better than Seven Swans but not necessarily better than Michigan. Is this rating a follow up or merely talking about the most recent release of an artist with multiple releases out? Kids, we need to be careful with language or the struggle for meaning will be lost!

Doves... most recent not as good as last.
M. Ward ... better than last.
Spoon ... after initially sounding better to me than the last, didn't hold up.
Beck ... continue to slip... to the point where I can no longer enjoy the first 4-5 that I liked... in three years he's doing state fairs.
Sleater-Kinney .... better than their last
New Porns ... sounded gooder than the last at first.... is not holding up for me
Six organs of admittance... the best they've done
American Analog Set... same...but so what
Super Furry Animals...zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Josh Rouse, Malkmus.... holding even
Architecture in Helsinki ... not as interesting as previous release.

So this marks some disappointments, but none of these, to me, is a "follow up" in the sense defined above.

Franz Ferdinand would put out a follow up this year.

The Mayor of Simpleton · **Posted:** Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:34 pm

energy for everyone Wrote:

sfa's still a great band, even if you think their new album is a disappointment. but that's just my take. I happen to like every album they've released for whatever reason. Maybe I'm just really fond of their live show.

Every album of theirs has been a grower for me. I found Phantom Power to be really boring for quite a while, and then suddenly one day it became really wonderful. I don't expect much different from this one, either. Those are the best albums, anyway - the ones that just don't hit you over the head at first. Those are the ones I'll be listening to 5 years from now, while everything else I was raving about the day they were released are probably long gone from my collection.

FT · **Posted:** Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:43 pm

djdan Wrote:

Pernice Brothers, Discover A Lovelier You – I love Joe Pernice and while this record grabbed me in spots, I find that overall, it’s a snoozer.

I TOTALLY agree.

FT · **Posted:** Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:46 pm

elephantstone Wrote:

My Morning Jacket, Z – definitely don't like this as much as it still moves. definitely don't dislike it. still need more time with this one.

Seconded.

FT · **Posted:** Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:39 pm

MiceElf Wrote:

slightly so on John Vanderslice's "Pixel Revolt" which I like in parts but it hasn't quite grabbed me yet (and I really want it to because I love me some J.V.).

Ditto.

KPH · **Posted:** Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:36 pm

OPA! Wrote:

Anyone who thinks M. Ward's follow up is a disappointment must be stoned or just plain dumb.

Well I don't use drugs...so. Dumd time!

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