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Number one, I've always said the whole ratings thing is a sham.

It's all based on "Nielsen" households, otherwise one would have to assume that every tv in the world contains some sort of high tech tracking device for what shows you watch at all time.

Now I have personally never heard of or encountered ANYONE here or in person who is a nielsen household. Which means there truly is a giant hole within this whole who watches what bullshit.

Bcause everyone I know, family included, watches Arrested Development.

I seriously have thought about writing a letter inquiring about this because good shows get canceled and muck like 90% of the comedies on CBS survive.

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I have never watched an episode of "Arrested Development" and don't even know what time it comes on. One of these days, I'll rent the DVDs to watch what the hype is about.


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Number one, I've always said the whole ratings thing is a sham.

It's all based on "Nielsen" households, otherwise one would have to assume that every tv in the world contains some sort of high tech tracking device for what shows you watch at all time.

Now I have personally never heard of or encountered ANYONE here or in person who is a nielsen household. Which means there truly is a giant hole within this whole who watches what bullshit.

Bcause everyone I know, family included, watches Arrested Development.

I seriously have thought about writing a letter inquiring about this because good shows get canceled and muck like 90% of the comedies on CBS survive.


My dad (with sisters & parents) was a Nielsen family back in the 60s for a while when you wrote it down and mailed it in. Apparently they got pretty slack, so every week they would try to fill it in after the fact, and my grandfather would always say, "I don't remember and don't really care, but whatever you do don't write down that piece of shit 'Mod Squad'."

Thing is, for everyone you know that watches "Arrested Development", I can't think of a single person in my daily travels that has told me that they watch it. That would be somewhat inconsistent, because all the people on this board and others seem to be pretty rabid about the show, signing online petitions and what-not.

Compare that with the shows I frequently hear about in passing:
Desperate Housewives; CSI; Lost; House, MD; Extreme Makeover; ER (I didn't even realize it was still on); Cold Cases; Family Guy; etc.

If memory serves, there are more Nielsen households today than ever before. As technology has gotten better and cheaper, Nielsen reports are automated, i.e. the box automatically reports what you watch and for how long. I also think that they concentrate on getting pretty sturdy samples across demographic and geographic information available. When you think of the gobs and gobs of advertising dollars and production dollars, Nielsen has a pretty damn big stake in getting it right.

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Charli Wrote:
Number one, I've always said the whole ratings thing is a sham.

It's all based on "Nielsen" households, otherwise one would have to assume that every tv in the world contains some sort of high tech tracking device for what shows you watch at all time.

Now I have personally never heard of or encountered ANYONE here or in person who is a nielsen household. Which means there truly is a giant hole within this whole who watches what bullshit.

Bcause everyone I know, family included, watches Arrested Development.

I seriously have thought about writing a letter inquiring about this because good shows get canceled and muck like 90% of the comedies on CBS survive.


My dad (with sisters & parents) was a Nielsen family back in the 60s for a while when you wrote it down and mailed it in. Apparently they got pretty slack, so every week they would try to fill it in after the fact, and my grandfather would always say, "I don't remember and don't really care, but whatever you do don't write down that piece of shit 'Mod Squad'."

Thing is, for everyone you know that watches "Arrested Development", I can't think of a single person in my daily travels that has told me that they watch it. That would be somewhat inconsistent, because all the people on this board and others seem to be pretty rabid about the show, signing online petitions and what-not.

Compare that with the shows I frequently hear about in passing:
Desperate Housewives; CSI; Lost; House, MD; Extreme Makeover; ER (I didn't even realize it was still on); Cold Cases; Family Guy; etc.

If memory serves, there are more Nielsen households today than ever before. As technology has gotten better and cheaper, Nielsen reports are automated, i.e. the box automatically reports what you watch and for how long. I also think that they concentrate on getting pretty sturdy samples across demographic and geographic information available. When you think of the gobs and gobs of advertising dollars and production dollars, Nielsen has a pretty damn big stake in getting it right.


Aside from some issues in reference to measuring minority viewing habits accurately, this post is pretty much spot on.

I don't know one person offline who watches "Arrested", even though I've watched it from Episode One.


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Charli Wrote:
Number one, I've always said the whole ratings thing is a sham.

It's all based on "Nielsen" households, otherwise one would have to assume that every tv in the world contains some sort of high tech tracking device for what shows you watch at all time.

Now I have personally never heard of or encountered ANYONE here or in person who is a nielsen household. Which means there truly is a giant hole within this whole who watches what bullshit.

Bcause everyone I know, family included, watches Arrested Development.

I seriously have thought about writing a letter inquiring about this because good shows get canceled and muck like 90% of the comedies on CBS survive.


I, in fact, belong to a Nielsen household.


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I think my family got something in the mail a few years ago about becoming a Nielson household. We didn't do it.


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screw the Nielson ratings for christ sakes! does anyone have any ass pics of Ashlee from SNL?


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screw the Nielson ratings for christ sakes! does anyone have any ass pics of Ashlee from SNL?


Not from behind, but...

[img][399:500]http://img227.echo.cx/img227/8545/image132xe.jpg[/img]


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damn, kinda looks like a drag queen.

not that i have a problem with that :)


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I think the Simpson sisters are not attractive.


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Sergei Bubka Wrote:
Dalen Wrote:
screw the Nielson ratings for christ sakes! does anyone have any ass pics of Ashlee from SNL?


Not from behind, but...

[img][399:500]http://img227.echo.cx/img227/8545/image132xe.jpg[/img]


is that a young Mick Mars?

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I think the Simpson sisters are not attractive.



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Sergei Bubka Wrote:
Dalen Wrote:
screw the Nielson ratings for christ sakes! does anyone have any ass pics of Ashlee from SNL?


Not from behind, but...

[img][399:500]http://img227.echo.cx/img227/8545/image132xe.jpg[/img]


is that a young Mick Mars?

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I LOL'd. :lol:

A friend of mine works for a hotel in Ft. lauderdale. When Motley Crue played there, they stayed at the hotel. Mick Mars was under the name "The Relic". Awesome.


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Sergei Bubka Wrote:
Dalen Wrote:
screw the Nielson ratings for christ sakes! does anyone have any ass pics of Ashlee from SNL?


Not from behind, but...

[img][399:500]http://img227.echo.cx/img227/8545/image132xe.jpg[/img]
You know, I used to have jammies like that...and that thought is kind of...(shudders)...

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Arrested Development is the only thing me and my girlfriend disagree on. I think it's lowest denominator, pointlessly self referential, heavy handed and devoid of laughs.

she thinks it's the bee's knees.

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Bcause everyone I know, family included, watches Arrested Development.

I think it's one of those things where you just happen to be in a circle of people who like that kind of thing. Me? My wife and I set our watches by AD, but I only know one person, whom I work with, that actually watches the show - but I know several people who would likely enjoy it a lot if they actually pressed the two channel buttons that take them to the one that shows it. Seriously, there's more of a problem getting this show out to the people who would like it than anything else. I don't know why or what the problem is, but that's a good thing since I'm not a marketing genius. Were I, however, I'd be mighty curious why this show is struggling. It's not THAT different or weird - there are more fans of this type of humor than the ratings indicate. For whatever reason, they're just not tuning in. Fox doesn't seem to be going out of their way to find out why. Buy the DVDs - the very good sales of season 1 seems to be the sole reason Fox continues to stand behind the show.

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