fair enough, except that to be down 10-3 at the half on the road is a lot different than up 3-0, which it would have been without the absurd interference call and the false start on the field goal.

and regarding the turnovers, yes it is hard to win when you turn the ball over 5 times, and i am not saying that the pats shouldn't have played better. however, the turnover that really changed the game was the bailey interception. assuming at least 3, and possibly 7 for the pats without that turnover, you're looking at a 10-14 point differencial. that differcial only exists because of a horrible call at the end of the return, when bailey turned the ball over but it wasn't called properly. so, even with the horrible interference call and 5 turnovers, the pats were not in that bad a position.

and as for you jewels, the pat's running back that year was antoine smith and they were more reliant on the pass than the colts. the colts dbs could have done the same thing to the pats receivers, none of which was illegal at the time.

and regarding me complaining about calls, i assume you think i don't have the right because of the tuck rule, but that play was called correctly according to nfl rules. if i wrote the rule book, that would be a fumble, which it now is. at the time, it wasn't. the pats were given nothing.

even under the rules of that era (did they change the rules, or just put more focus on inforcing them? i forget.) but with no rooting interest in the game i couldnt' believe they werne't throwing flags while the Pats mauled their WR's.

and i don't like Payton.

they changed the rules. incidentally, after the rules were changed, there was a league-wide offensive explosion, so i guess the pats weren't the only ones being physical with receivers coming off the line.

and we can blame the pats for turning the ball over, but maybe they were pressing because they were put in a hole. samuel was fouled on that pass, still managed to make no contact with the receiver, and the broncos have the ball at the 1? come on. you are going to tell me that the rest of the game plays out the same way as if the right call (or no call, which i would have accepted even though it was offensive interference) was made?

Hah. Laughable man. I am not jealous of Boston's success, not on the NFL front, nor NBA, nor MLB. Because, why should I be?

The Packers still have 13 (?) titles to their name, though all but one dating to at least forty years ago, and as it is, I have revelled in the descent into, first, mediocrity, and, now, failure, since the handling of the franchise's assets in the latter years of Holmgren and seasons since has been less than honourable.

The Bucks have been competitive for the past seven years, save for last season, and beyond that, anything would be gravy. I would rather see either A.I. or the Clippers win a title, anyway.

And, the Brewers are finally rounding the bend, plus, from '78 to '92, with the exceptions of '84, '86, and '90, they were always in the thick of it. Even if they only ended up with one WS appearance.

So, jealous I am not. Nor am I in favor of redistributive justice - though the NFL's revenue sharing is genius, and prolly one of the reasons that one-time bottom-feeders like the Pack and Pats were able to pick themselves back up in the early nineties (and go on to meet in the thirty-first Super Bowl (won by GB, 35-21 )). It's just a matter of breaks evening.

And, no, Brady wasn't tucking the ball, anyway. Charles Woodson got screwed in that call (though he remained honourable in not going bucky as he, REAL STREET NIGGA, prolly should have). But that's done, and gone.

exactly. had he 'tucked' the ball after the passing motion, he would have re-initiated possesion of it.

also, you might forget because they have had 2 players die on them, setting them back quite a bit, but the celtics were the standard of excellence in the nba last decade, so i'm going to take them over the bucs.

in the 1990s?

Len Bias never played a second for them, and Reggie Lewis was a middling player who, like Jim Morrison before him, has been aggrandized in death.

Neither of those losses set them back. But, Danny Ainge as Pres/GM does.

reggie lewis was a bit better than you're giving him credit for.

reggie was better than anyone on the bucks roster now.



also, rick pitino and ml carr's dumb ass moves (trading billups, huge contracts for inferior players) and not getting tim duncan.

You can't honestly believe all that shit. The Patriots lost because they played badly and because injuries finally caught up with them. There were at least 2 horrible officiating calls against the Steelers in their game, and they still won. Because, they, unlike the Patriots, actually played well. Your team failed. Deal with it.

Why all the Peyton hate?

i think the turnovers hurt the pats more than that one shitty call.

racism.

bias may not have played for the celts, but you don't get a replacement lottery pick if yours dies.

not the same, but just sayin', didn't they get a couple of second or third round picks the next year?

I respectfully disagree.

who?