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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:29 pm 
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the deal is that i will work there 3 months and if we all feel it works out okay, i'll go full time. fine. but now they are giving tests to two other candidates and want me to take it too. they will give us all a project friday at 5pm and then we have to hand it in monday at 9am.


No way, Jose. I won't do work on spec. Not a chance. You either buy my time, or you do without. That was one lesson I liked from all the readings I've done since starting out. I love competition, but I'm not going to let them take my ideas and mishmash them into some other concept and have someone else get paid for it. No dice. I can find work elsewhere.


i know. i never work on spec. ever. it basically tells the client that your time is invaluable.

i don't feel that they are going to rip these ideas off for a project. i think they genuinely want to see how people work but i'm not into this at all. you've seen my book, i've been here for 2 1/2 weeks under pretty weird circumstances and that's it. i don't want to give up a weekend to prove myself. i'm really beyond that. i'll see how i feel over the next few days.

a little mats is a great idea. thanks eFu.


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[But let's face it when you're a contractor, you often don't get paid when you expect to be and you usually are shooting yourself in the foot if you walk out and leave the client in a bad position, particularly if the relationship is one you value for the long term.


Another valuable business lesson:
Everybody knows somebody.


Very true. I have a client from when I used to freelance who hasn't paid me from last october. I'm not freelancing anymore, am very busy, and I'm still giving up a weekend soon to them. Why? (1) Because I know being on good terms and helping them by finishing up some stuff I never got to is going to make them happy and someday the relationship might help me. (2) The good faith and extra effort on my part will make it more likely not less likely that they will cough up the other dough they already owe me.

The "You've wronged me, thus f you" attitude from a lot of people here won't get you very far in this world. I'm not talking about Ayah, but the advice givers. I often think people here are too quick to give advice about situations they know nothing about. I feel for Ayah. Freelancing can really suck at times. Collecting can be a breeze but its often a pain in the ass and it seems like you're always either busy as hell or have nothing to do at all.


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ayah Wrote:
a little mats is a great idea. thanks eFu.


Mats is always good advice. Putting on that brazilian mix I made you might help too. I think its biologically impossible to be in a bad mood listening to brazilian music. Plus its carnaval right now so you should be celebrating anyway.


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A regular gig is a load off, but not if it means working for free. Good luck, glad you got paid. :)


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