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I don't know. Being a director, I know the hard task of directing people, and it never ceases to amaze me the scope of projects like Braveheart. It was emotional, and it was well-written and acted. I think people's perception unfortunately fell when Mel's Christ movie hit.


Me and You and Everyone We Know was better than any of the films nominated


I thought this was a great film too---although I think Capote was better.


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I just have no interest in seeing any of the pictures nominated, really. Just glancing over my viewing list of '05 films:

Broken Flowers
Manderlay
Quiet
The Squid & The Whale
Thumbsucker

These all look infinitely more interesting than Munich or Crash.

But maybe it is just a matter of different tastes. I haven't seen any of either category yet.


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Death To Shoegaze666 Wrote:
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I don't know. Being a director, I know the hard task of directing people, and it never ceases to amaze me the scope of projects like Braveheart. It was emotional, and it was well-written and acted. I think people's perception unfortunately fell when Mel's Christ movie hit.


no, he's just always been terrible.

Me and You and Everyone We Know was better than any of the films nominated


While I own this and enjoy it bunches, it certainly wasn't an actor, nor writing tour de force. A good first outing, yes. Let's be honest really. This was a so-so year for Oscars. It was a boring show, and methinks that the Crash win was so it would get press. Look, if BM won, it'd be like "everyone that was supposed to win won." Simple. They threw a wrench in the system, and unfortunately it was the wrong wrench.

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I liked Crash but I don't think it deserved to win.

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Crash was by far the lowest in the Village Voice film critics poll all the way down at 66.

munich 31

capote 16

good night 13

brokeback 11

a history of violence was #1

http://www.villagevoice.com/take/seven. ... category=1


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Crash and Brokeback Mountain were the only 2 of the best picture nominees I saw. I liked them both quite a bit, but Brokeback Mountain was clearly a much better film. Much more attention detail, a much more realistic plot, and more subtle. Crash kind of bashes you over the head with it's message and it's far-fetched plot devices. Brokeback seems like a real story about real people. At least Ang Lee won.


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kung fu huslte shouldda won.


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Mybe it's because I'm not in an urban environment, but I thought Crash's "everything we ever do, 24/7, is tinged by desperation and racist conflict" constant tone to be deeply contrived, like the worst kind of wanna-be-Spike film school pretense blown up large.

Some very good acting, but a truly stilted, ponderously self-important slew of ranting and whining, without cohesive point and nearly without plot.

Dillon was creepy, that's true.


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I enjoyed Crash quite a lot, but haven't seen the other nominated films. My wife really enjoyed 'Good Night and Good Luck'. I'll probably check them out on dvd and then I can weigh in.

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I like ensemble movies quite a bit and Crash is better than most. That said, this was one of the worst years in movies in a long while.

When King Kong takes home 3-4 awards, and Three-Six Mafia wins one, you know it sucks. I thought the special effects in Kong, not dealing with the chimp, were rough and spotty.


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shiv Wrote:
I liked Crash but I don't think it deserved to win.


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i thought crash was the best movie i saw from last year


Yeah.

Josh and I both really liked the movie when we saw it a few weeks ago. It's definitely a flick that I remembered this year.

I don't think it was contrived, I thought it interesting and the performances were pretty damn awesome.

I was happy to see it pull an upset over Brokeback.

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I laughed my ass off at the Braveheart clip in the montage of bigass movies. That HUGE head of hair and Mel looking so earnest.

A lot of people REALLY like that movie.


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Crash = mediocre.

Of movies that have similar plots, it's one of the lower quality versions. I thought Magnolia was a much better rendition of that genre.

I agree though, this year was not so hot for movies.

Did Born Into Brothels win anything? it should have.


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Hegel-oh's Wrote:
Crash = mediocre.

Of movies that have similar plots, it's one of the lower quality versions. I thought Magnolia was a much better rendition of that genre.

I agree though, this year was not so hot for movies.

Did Born Into Brothels win anything? it should have.


Something about Born Into Brothels really annoyed me. The good white woman artist who gets a kid from Mumbai to go to school in Europe. As though 20 years of post-colonialist thought and theory had never happened. It wasn't about kids born in brothels in India... it was about a documentary about it.

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Hegel-oh's Wrote:
Crash = mediocre.

Of movies that have similar plots, it's one of the lower quality versions. I thought Magnolia was a much better rendition of that genre.


I love Magnolia and PTA for basing a movie essentially around Charles Fort's ideas. I don't know if it's necessarily superior to Crash which had an intended message about race. Magnolia was certainly longer and more self-indulgent about its meaning of implicit order. I think Short Cuts is far superior example of ensemble movies, but it lacked any kind of organizational theme except for maybe anomie.

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Born Into Brothels won last year somehow. Garbage, if you ask me.


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i don't understand how the Oscars work. Wasn't Born Into Brothels released in 2005? Were the Oscars not for films in 2005?


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Wasn't Born Into Brothels released in 2005?

Released on DVD, yes. 2004 on the big screen.
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Hegel-oh's Wrote:
Crash = mediocre.

Of movies that have similar plots, it's one of the lower quality versions. I thought Magnolia was a much better rendition of that genre.

I agree though, this year was not so hot for movies.

Did Born Into Brothels win anything? it should have.


Something about Born Into Brothels really annoyed me. The good white woman artist who gets a kid from Mumbai to go to school in Europe. As though 20 years of post-colonialist thought and theory had never happened. It wasn't about kids born in brothels in India... it was about a documentary about it.



Wait a minute. Wasn't the woman artist part-Indian herself?!!!

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I never even heard of Crash.

I also haven't seen a movie in the theater in almost 2 years.

I also don't remember when the last time I rented or even watched a movie. Tivo has given us so many recorded shows to watch, we can hardly keep up with keeping that clean.


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Crash was ok, but I'm getting real sick of LA / Hollywood turning the camera back on itself. No offense to Aural et al but not all of us are curious about what LA's doing every second. Pick a new locale once in a while.

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I think Wallace and Gromit was the best movie released last year.


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Crash was ok, but I'm getting real sick of LA / Hollywood turning the camera back on itself. No offense to Aural et al but not all of us are curious about what LA's doing every second. Pick a new locale once in a while.


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