2005-06 NBA Awards

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

FT Wrote:

MEGA Wrote:

This guy has crack Wrote:

i wouldn't have kobe in the top five. if the lakers were winning their division, then maybe.

ridiculous. if he wasnt on the team they wouldnt have a single win.

Same deal with the Cavs, but they don't have Phil Jackson as their coach, which is why LeBron deserves it over Kobe.

np: Glowfriends - "The Song Inside My Head"

If the game is on the line and you'd rather have the ball in lebron's hands, you're crazy. He's a great player but at this stage in his career he doesn't have 1/10 of the killer instinct that kobe does.

besides cav's playing against eastern competition more than offsets the coaching difference.

A Northern Soul · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:23 pm **Posts:** 3742

MEGA Wrote:

mike james sucks. the only people that think he's worth shit are people who see ESPN highlights. Raptors fans hate him.

im a raptors fan, and i dont hate him. the raptors havent been able to get decent production from a point guard since damon stoudamire left, and hes certainly a step up from the oft-injured alvin williams, who is more than likely finished anyway.

Black Magic Putin · **Posted:** Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:46 pm

billy g Wrote:

If the game is on the line and you'd rather have the ball in lebron's hands, you're crazy. He's a great player but at this stage in his career he doesn't have 1/10 of the killer instinct that kobe does.

i don't really think that "shoots every time = killer instinct". how many games have you seen kobe lose by himself by hurling up a three pointer in triple coverage? far, far more than he's won, and he's been doing it for YEARS. if you're saying that you want kobe taking the last shot sure, if you're saying that you want your best player to find the best shot on the floor, well he's pretty deficient. he's an amazing scorer but pretty much the antithesis of a team player, and a cancer on the floor.

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

paper Wrote:

MEGA Wrote:

mike james sucks. the only people that think he's worth shit are people who see ESPN highlights. Raptors fans hate him.

his scoring average went from like 11 ppg to 21 ppg...he's third in the league in 3pt fg%. I would say he improved slightly.

Do you know a lot of Raptors fans?

You're asking if I personally know people on an internet message board. that's not relevant, there's plenty of basketball forums and websites too. He brings nothing to the point guard position whatsoever. Yeah, he's moderately talented, he can shoot, he's nothing more than an even shittier Stephon Marbury/Francis/Knicks guard. His ass needs to learn that his role is to pass to Bosh.

paper · **Posted:** Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:48 pm

I stand by the fact that he vastly improved from last year...

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

This guy has crack Wrote:

billy g Wrote:

If the game is on the line and you'd rather have the ball in lebron's hands, you're crazy. He's a great player but at this stage in his career he doesn't have 1/10 of the killer instinct that kobe does.

i don't really think that "shoots every time = killer instinct". how many games have you seen kobe lose by himself by hurling up a three pointer in triple coverage?

About 1/100th of the games I've seen him single handedly carry the Lakers to a victory, or bring them back into the game after the rest of the team fucked up. Lebron would shoot 40 times a game with that roster around him too.

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

paper Wrote:

I stand by the fact that he vastly improved from last year...

That's like saying if Eddy Curry scored 7 more points in twice as many minutes as he had before, while averaging half a rebound more and twice as many turnovers he would be the most improved player in the league.

paper · **Posted:** Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:54 pm

Don't bring Eddy Curry into this.

rogneeb · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:07 pm **Posts:** 12618

MVP: LeBron James

Rookie: Chris Paul - no question really

Coach: Flip Saunders - gets no credit, but he improved the Pistons

Defensive: Ron Artest

Sixth Man: Ben Gordon.

Most Improved: Boris Diaw - can't argue this

Suprise: Clippers - duh

Disappointment: Timberwolves I guess - as always.

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

Dont defend mike james. he'd fit right in with the knicks anyways.

Black Magic Putin · **Posted:** Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:01 pm

rparis74 Wrote:

MVP: LeBron James

Rookie: Chris Paul - no question really

Coach: Flip Saunders - gets no credit, but he improved the Pistons

Defensive: Ron Artest

Sixth Man: Ben Gordon.

Most Improved: Boris Diaw - can't argue this

Suprise: Clippers - duh

Disappointment: Timberwolves I guess - as always.

yeah Paul and Diaw should be mortal locks, but i would love for artest to win defensive player. don't think that he's got a chance in hell though.

paper · **Posted:** Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:03 pm

MEGA Wrote:

Dont defend mike james. he'd fit right in with the knicks anyways.

fair enough, he was a fantasy savior this year, so maybe he should just get the PAPER'S FANTASY AWARD.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

I don't really understand why the clippers being good this year is very surprising to people.

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

paper Wrote:

MEGA Wrote:

Dont defend mike james. he'd fit right in with the knicks anyways.

fair enough, he was a fantasy savior this year, so maybe he should just get the PAPER'S FANTASY AWARD.

also fair enough.

Black Magic Putin · **Posted:** Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:04 pm

billy g Wrote:

I don't really understand why the clippers being good this year is very surprising to people.

just because they're the clippers. Brand should have gotten shot or something to be unsurprising.

rogneeb · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:07 pm **Posts:** 12618

bruce bowen - millionaire based on being a supposed master of man to man defense and the corner 3-pointer. what a world.

biggest disappointment in advance - blazers get # pick in the draft and pick a total stiff from high school or europe.

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

billy g Wrote:

I don't really understand why the clippers being good this year is very surprising to people.

because, well, they're the clippers. I thought Cassell was too old, Kaman was garbage, and Magette was overrated at the beginning of the year. Brand deserves some consideration for MVP. I'd put him at third behind Kobe and Nash, tied with Nowitzki and just ahead of Lebron.

rogneeb · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:07 pm **Posts:** 12618

This guy has crack Wrote:

billy g Wrote:

I don't really understand why the clippers being good this year is very surprising to people.

just because they're the clippers. Brand should have gotten shot or something to be unsurprising.

its the clippers. what else do you need to say?

paper · **Posted:** Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:09 pm

dudes, Lebron is the MVP.

rogneeb · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:07 pm **Posts:** 12618

billy g Wrote:

FT Wrote:

MEGA Wrote:

This guy has crack Wrote:

i wouldn't have kobe in the top five. if the lakers were winning their division, then maybe.

ridiculous. if he wasnt on the team they wouldnt have a single win.

Same deal with the Cavs, but they don't have Phil Jackson as their coach, which is why LeBron deserves it over Kobe.

np: Glowfriends - "The Song Inside My Head"

If the sex is on the line and you'd rather have the front desk clerk in lebron's hands, you're crazy. He's a great player but at this stage in his career he doesn't have 1/10 of the killer rapist instinct that kobe does.

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

paper Wrote:

dudes, Lebron is the MVP.

He's the best player in the league. But if you take him off the Cavaliers they're a 6th seed. If you take Kobe off the Lakers they're the worst team in the history of sports.

ptrck · **Joined:** Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:55 pm **Posts:** 5568

MEGA Wrote:

paper Wrote:

dudes, Lebron is the MVP.

He's the best player in the league. But if you take him off the Cavaliers they're a 6th seed. If you take Kobe off the Lakers they're the worst team in the history of sports.

Thank you.

Definition of MVP.

End of story.

P.S. I hate the guy (Kobe) personally, but he does more for his team than Jordan did during the entire 80's. It remains to be seen if they can build another nucleus to go on a championship, but the fact that they won ~45 games this year with sasha vujacic, smush parker, chris mihm, brian cook, kwame brown, luke walton...has a bigger collection of stiffs ever been assembled? I think not. How many of those guys would actually be drafted today, if a draft were held? Maybe Mihm...

FT · **Posted:** Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:21 pm

MEGA Wrote:

Are you implying that Ilgauskus, Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Donyell Marshall, Snow, Varajao, Damon Jones, and Flip Murray are on the same level as Kwame Brown, Lamar Odom, Chris Mihm and a bunch of guys who weren't even good enough to be in the league last year?

What I'm implying is that Phil Jackson would get a lot more out of LeBron and the Lakers than Coach Urkel would out of Kobe and the Cavs.

ptrck · **Joined:** Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:55 pm **Posts:** 5568

FT Wrote:

MEGA Wrote:

Are you implying that Ilgauskus, Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Donyell Marshall, Snow, Varajao, Damon Jones, and Flip Murray are on the same level as Kwame Brown, Lamar Odom, Chris Mihm and a bunch of guys who weren't even good enough to be in the league last year?

What I'm implying is that Phil Jackson would get a lot more out of LeBron and the Lakers than Coach Urkel would out of Kobe and the Cavs.

You buy into the Zen master shit, eh?

shiv · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:18 am

MEGA Wrote:

paper Wrote:

dudes, Lebron is the MVP.

He's the best player in the league. But if you take him off the Cavaliers they're a 6th seed. If you take Kobe off the Lakers they're the worst team in the history of sports.

no, they'd just run the offense through someone else.

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