Let's Talk about The Cure

no guru · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:32 pm

As much as I love The Head On The Door, I think Disintegration is the best. Some of my favorite keyboards and Smith is massively hopeful in his somberness. Unlike schizoid albums like KMKMKM and most post-Disintegration works, he doesn't veer into abject, irritating mopery or jitter off into sarcastic pop on that, so the beauty is more coherent across the album, I think.

djdan · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:38 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

Coincidentally, "Why Can't I Be You" was played at the gym yesterday. It's even worse than I remember it, with those synth horns and strings and Smith's whiny-ass voice.

I love this album and the Cure in general, but you're right, this song has always sucked balls.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

Radcliffe Wrote:

Coincidentally, "Why Can't I Be You" was played at the gym yesterday. It's even worse than I remember it, with those synth horns and strings and Smith's whiny-ass voice. Fit right in with all the other shit that gets played at a gym.

I gotta agree with you. I was a big cure fan back in the day and at least in theory still like them even if I don't listen to them much at all. I've always hated that song though, just awful. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me had a couple of good songs but it was mostly pretty bad as well. Wish is the only one that I may like less and at least that one is just bad and not bad and annoying.

no guru · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:42 pm

Well it is supposed to be a sarcastic song. It's like his "Don't Worry, Be Happy."

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

f(spn) Wrote:

Well it is supposed to be a sarcastic song. It's like his "Don't Worry, Be Happy."

Are the horns supposed to make you want to shove needles in your ears?

no guru · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:47 pm

Probably was Smith's response to suits hearing stuff like "The Snakepit" and going "My God where's the HIT?"

Stop Breathin' · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:56 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

Coincidentally, "Why Can't I Be You" was played at the gym yesterday. It's even worse than I remember it, with those synth horns and strings and Smith's whiny-ass voice. Fit right in with all the other shit that gets played at a gym.

But do you like The Cure?

I never got into them as much as I should have. Disintegration is obviously great. I think it was just a matter of their image and the people that I saw wearing their t-shirts, etc. at the time not appealing to me. Pretty dumb, but yeah, I was young.

e-stone · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:59 pm

disintegration was top 5 on my listmania.

KPH · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:31 pm

I like the longer version of Why Can't I Be You on the Picture Show tape (DVD?).

Pretty much everything through Wish is OK in my book. Although some of "The Top" doesn't work for me too well, which probably has a lot to do with my not being into drugs.

PopTodd · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:32 pm

Also, come on...
You know the version of "Close To Me" on Staring At the Sea, with the horns kicks the original's ass.

no guru · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:35 pm

KPH Wrote:

some of "The Top" doesn't work for me too well, which probably has a lot to do with my not being into drugs.

My gram, circa 1983:

"You just take an' truck yer sorry ass down to the Dunkin Donuts all-nighter with them Indian dopers and their hippie-trash disco and leave me be watch my wrestlin' you little shitcake"

KPH · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:43 pm

Indian dopers will be our collective undoing.

no guru · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:47 pm

She hated "indins" but loved Charley Pride.

I bet she never knew Wilie Nelson and Kris Kristofferson were massive potheads.

One time she heard me playing "The Baby Screams" and said "your mother should have stopped at your brother Tim."

KPH · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:04 pm

(drugs don't work so hot for me, but I can't hold using them against anyone else, including Indians, but particularly Kristofferson)

I imagine my parents had a similar "wha?" response to my listening to NWA and Public Enemy, particularly as they tried to raise me on John Denver and Anne Murray.

puma · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:08 pm

Modem Wrote:

Disintegration = one of my all-time / lifetime favorites.

i really enjoy bloodflower as well. i haven't listened to the cure in a long time.

"lovesong" makes me go apeshit.

the box set of b-sides & rareties is really good too.

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:17 pm

Stop Breathin' Wrote:

Radcliffe Wrote:

Coincidentally, "Why Can't I Be You" was played at the gym yesterday. It's even worse than I remember it, with those synth horns and strings and Smith's whiny-ass voice. Fit right in with all the other shit that gets played at a gym.

But do you like The Cure?

When the Boys Don't Cry comp first got released I thought it was pretty good - "Fire In Cairo", "10:15 Saturday Night", and "Jumping Someone Else's Train" made it on to a lot of my mix tapes back then - but I never got in to anything else they did. Didn't HATE 'em, just thought they were uninterestingly conventional and unintentionally funny. Of course, they're the sort of band that has fans that loudly proclaim them THE GREATEST BAND EVER, which always tends to piss me off.

pollysix · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:56 am **Posts:** 5174

f(spn) Wrote:

Probably was Smith's response to suits hearing stuff like "The Snakepit" and going "My God where's the HIT?"

Heh... I think "The Snakepit" would make a lot of people ask where the "hit" is as well...

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rogneeb · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:07 pm **Posts:** 12618

love the cure. dont listen to them as much as I used you. i now like echo a lot more - kind of traded places in my pantheon.

d · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:39 pm

pollysix Wrote:

"How Beautiful You Are" is amazing
...and so are

"Like Cockatoos"
"Icing Sugar" (aren't the toms wicked on this one?)
"Just Like Heaven" (obviously)
"The Perfect Girl"
"The Snakepit"
I can barely listen to "One More Time" and "A Thousand Hours" without crying.

(Not the biggest fan of "Torture" or "Fight"... as my friend once put it, Robert Smith doesn't do 'angry' very well: (in a cute British accent): "I want to smash you to little pieces!")

I love all the songs you listed here. I actually think Robert Smith might have had a premonition about my psychotic lab when he wrote "The Perfect Girl." it's her theme song. I do like the guitar on Torture though.

harry · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:36 pm

It's interesting... many in this thread have a similar "they are one of the greatest/my favorite but I don't listen to them much..."

I'd have to say I thought they were really interesting, NOT expected or conventional, and I remember seeing 50,000 in Dodger Stadium bouncing in unison to Killing an Arab... thinking something surreal has happened to culture. The sound, texture, instrumentation and lyrics were all refreshingly unflinching for the 80's. I thought KMKMKM was the start of their decline, but then Distintegration came out as their greatest, most coherent (disintegrating) statement of drugged entropy. God I remember horrible afternoons jonesing and playing that over and over in Santa Monica with the hot sun outside and every window and blind closed with intent.

They are one of those bands who tapped into the zeitgeist... which I think is why I don't play them much either.

They have one of the best discography websites ever, indicative of the powerful hold they have on the faithful.

http://www.plainsong.net/

Hard to know what is a Obnerian slant on music these days anyway... I guess someone can like Arcade Fire and Drive By Truckers is an Obnerian model soldier.

Flowthgin · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:40 pm

Speaking of a new album they have been working on one and it is penciled in for a 4th Quarter 2006 release.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:51 pm

"Inbetween Days" is the best song they ever wrote.

Bee OK · **Posted:** Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:17 am

harry Wrote:

It's interesting... many in this thread have a similar "they are one of the greatest/my favorite but I don't listen to them much..."

I'd have to say I thought they were really interesting, NOT expected or conventional, and I remember seeing 50,000 in Dodger Stadium bouncing in unison to Killing an Arab... thinking something surreal has happened to culture. The sound, texture, instrumentation and lyrics were all refreshingly unflinching for the 80's. I thought KMKMKM was the start of their decline, but then Distintegration came out as their greatest, most coherent (disintegrating) statement of drugged entropy. God I remember horrible afternoons jonesing and playing that over and over in Santa Monica with the hot sun outside and every window and blind closed with intent.

They are one of those bands who tapped into the zeitgeist... which I think is why I don't play them much either.

They have one of the best discography websites ever, indicative of the powerful hold they have on the faithful.

http://www.plainsong.net/

Hard to know what is a Obnerian slant on music these days anyway... I guess someone can like Arcade Fire and Drive By Truckers is an Obnerian model soldier.

OTM!

The Cure was the band that I grew up with, so they have made that permanent mark. My all time favorite band and have told countless stories already on this board...

Bee OK · **Posted:** Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:18 am

This really was their peak, The Top is a classic not yet really realized because I have seen it live.

--------------------------------

JAPANESE WHISPERS AND...
5/30/2006 6:16:24 PM - by CURE:ROBERT

JAPANESE WHISPERS IS DELETED
AS THERE SEEMED LITTLE POINT IN REMASTERING AN ALBUM THAT WASNT REALLY AN ALBUM ANYWAY
AND (AS HAS ALREADY BEEN POINTED OUT) ALL THE JW SONGS ARE AVAILABLE AS REMASTERS ON THE GREATEST HITS AND JOIN THE DOTS

AND 'OTHER' KMKMKM SONGS...

THIS WAS A DIFFICULT EXTRAS CD TO COMPILE
AS THERE WERE REALLY TWO...
ONE WITH 18 UNRELEASED AND B-SIDE INSTRUMENTAL DEMOS
AND THE DEMOS/OUT-TAKES/LIVE ONE THAT IS TO BE RELEASED

ON BALANCE I (AND THOSE I PLAYED BOTH TO) FELT THAT THE DEMOS/OUT-TAKES/LIVE ONE WAS JUST MORE INTERESTING AS AN EXTRA WITH THE KMKMKM ALBUM...

MAYBE THE OTHER ONE WILL LEAK OUT SOMETIME...

ANYWAY...
THESE NEXT REMASTERS REALLY DO SOUND FAB... PARTICULARLY THE TOP!
RSX

AND (AS HAS ALSO ALREADY BEEN POINTED OUT)
NOW ALL THE CURIOSITY TRACKS WILL BE AVAILABLE
AND
THERE WILL BE AN 'ALL THE SINGLES' COLLECTION NEXT YEAR - WITH STARING AT THE SEA TYPE LINKS INBETWEEN
AND
THERE WILL BE A LIVE DVD BOXSET
WITH ORANGE
AND SHOW
AND JAPAN(?)
AND
AND
OTHER SURPRISE STUFF

AND
A PRAYER TOUR SHOW?
HMMMM...
IF I CAN FIND THE FOOTAGE!

ONWARDS...

Flying Rabbit · **Posted:** Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:44 am

I guess they are trying to do this chronologically. I'm impressed with the job Smith has done with the first 4. I'm eagarly awaiting--cash in hand--the next 3. For me, they were always just a "singles" band until I got to college and started delving into their discography. I remember going to the local record shop right off campus and listening to Cure boots, at the time, didn't have enough money to buy. Unfortunately my only live experience with them has been the Curioso tour. I can only imagine, in their prime, what it must've been like.

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