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biggest surprise of this year - that the guys behind that group could get a website put together or that they even have access to a computer.

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whats the difference between those that agree and those that strongly disagree in those responses?

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whats the difference between those that agree and those that strongly disagree in those responses?


Klan members agree opposed to Skinheads, who strongly agree.

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Imagine living in Oklahoma and having every other state within striking distance hate you and have governments that have philosophies that dictate and support your annhiliation. Not exactly that Peaceful Easy Feeling that that one band mentions.

On a somewhat related but not really at all note:

WHAT THE FUH!!!


Having spent the better part of my life in states bordering Oklahoma, I can say that the above statement is pretty much true and as such doesn't really take much imagining. Neighboring states really do hate Oklahoma and support its annihilation.

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Israeli Jets Strike Airport in Beirut
By GREG MYRE and STEVEN ERLANGER

JERUSALEM, Thursday, July 13 — Israel struck targets in Beirut and south Lebanon today in retaliation for a cross-border assault by the guerilla group Hezbollah, prompting President Bush to express concern that the Israeli actions might “topple’’ the Lebanese government.

Hezbollah had surprised Israel with a bold daylight assault on Wednesday, leading Israel to respond by sending armored forces into southern Lebanon for the first time in six years.

Early on Thursday morning, Israeli warplanes fired missiles at the runways at Rafik Hariri International Airport in Beirut, shutting the airport and potentially stranding thousands of visitors at the peak of the tourism season. The Israeli military confirmed the strike, saying that the airport was a target because Hezbollah receives weapons shipments there. Israel also announced that its navy would blockade Lebanon’s ports to cut off such shipments.

An Israeli foreign ministry spokesman, Daniel Taub, said in a televised interview that actions against Lebanon would continue until its government meets “its responsibility’’ by ending the attacks by Hezbollah.

Israeli warplanes also struck numerous locations in southern Lebanon, adding to the death toll. Hezbollah in return fired several Katyusha rockets into northern Israel, injuring three people.

Israel, which is already waging a military operation in the Gaza Strip to free a soldier captured by Palestinian militants, said that two of its soldiers were captured and at least eight killed in the fighting with Hezbollah.

The toll was the highest for Israeli soldiers in several years. Combined with the deaths on Wednesday of at least 22 Palestinians, including many civilians, in fighting in Gaza, it was the deadliest day in the Arab-Israeli conflict since Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip last year. The violence continued into the early morning hours today, when an Israeli air strike heavily damaged the Palestinian Foreign Ministry building in Gaza.

News services reported that Israeli planes dropped leaflets today over the southern suburbs of Beiruit, where Hezbollah is strong, warning residents to evacuate the area. Hezbollah said it would retaliate for any bombing there by firing rockets at the largest city in northern Israel, Haifa.

Even though Israel has overwhelming military superiority in both southern Lebanon and Gaza, the new fighting was a sign that the conflict has blown past the limits of local confrontation and become a regional crisis.

Speaking in Germany today at a news conference with Chancellor Angela Merkel, President Bush said that the United States was “working actively to help calm the situation.’’

Mr. Bush condemned Hezbollah and its capture of the Israeli soldiers, while calling on Israel to show restraint. He said he was worried about the effect on Lebanon’s government, which the United States has strongly supported since Syria was forced to end its occupation of the country last year.

“Our concern is that any activities by Israel to protect herself could weaken that government, could topple the government,’’ he said.


But Mr. Bush also said that “Syria needs to be held to account’’ for its support of Hezbollah and the militant wing of Hamas.

As with the Gaza conflict, Israel ruled out negotiations with the Lebanese captors of the Israeli soldiers. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said he held the Lebanese government responsible for the assault by Hezbollah, a Shiite Muslim group that participates in Lebanese politics but also continues to battle Israel.

“I want to make clear that the event this morning is not a terror act, but an act of a sovereign state that attacked Israel without reason,” Mr. Olmert said. “The government of Lebanon, of which Hezbollah is a part, is trying to shake the stability of the region.”

Israel is demanding that all three of its soldiers be returned, and that militants stop firing rockets at Israelis from Gaza in the south or Lebanon in the north. But both Hamas and Hezbollah are demanding the release of a large number of Palestinian and other Arab prisoners held by Israel in exchange.

“The prisoners will not be returned except through one way — indirect negotiations and a trade,” said the leader of Hezbollah, Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, speaking to reporters in Beirut on Wednesday.

He suggested the possibility of an overall deal. “The capture of the two soldiers could provide a solution to the Gaza crisis,” he said. The operation had been planned for months, he said, though he added, “The timing, no doubt, provides support for our brothers in Palestine.”

Hezbollah released a statement saying that the two soldiers had been transferred to “a safe place,” but did not give any other details.

Two years ago, Hezbollah managed to push Israel to free more than 400 Palestinian and Lebanese prisoners in exchange for an Israeli businessman held in Lebanon and for the bodies of three Israeli soldiers killed in a Hezbollah attack in 2000. Israel is currently holding close to 9,000 Palestinian prisoners; the number of Lebanese prisoners is believed to be much smaller.

The White House released a statement condemning the Hezbollah raid, calling it an “unprovoked act of terrorism” and holding Syria and Iran responsible because of their longstanding support for the group. The United Nations representative to southern Lebanon, Gier Pedersen, also criticized the Hezbollah raid, calling it “an act of very dangerous proportions.”

The fighting on the Lebanese border erupted around 9 a.m., when Hezbollah attacked several Israeli towns with rocket fire, wounding several civilians, the Israeli military said. But that attack was a diversion for the main operation, several miles to the east, where Hezbollah militants fired antitank missiles at two armored Humvees patrolling the Israeli side of the border fence, the military said. Of the seven soldiers in the two jeeps, three were killed, two wounded and two abducted, the military said.

Israel then responded with artillery fire, airstrikes and a naval bombardment that focused on about 40 sites in southern Lebanon. Most were believed to be Hezbollah strongholds, but roads and bridges were also hit in an attempt to keep Hezbollah from moving the captured soldiers farther north, according to the military. At least 2 Lebanese civilians were killed and more than 10 wounded in southern Lebanon, Lebanese officials said.

Israel also sent ground forces into Lebanon, and a tank hit an explosive planted in the road, killing all four soldiers inside, the Israeli military said. Another soldier was killed while trying to rescue those in the tank.

The Israeli incursion was the first such operation in southern Lebanon since Israel pulled its troops back into Israel in 2000, ending two decades of occupation.

Political and military analysts in Egypt and Israel said the recent events seemed to stem from a growing relationship between Hamas and Hezbollah. While there is no direct evidence of coordinated attacks, several analysts said they believed that the two kidnappings were part of a plan reflecting a trend that began several years ago, with Hezbollah trying to teach Hamas its methods.

“What took place from Hezbollah today, in my opinion, is tied to their relationship with Hamas,’’ said Dr. Wahid Abdel Meguid, Deputy Director of the Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Egypt. “Hezbollah developed a strong relationship with Hamas. The most manifest form of this relationship is Hezbollah’s role in training the Hamas cadres.”

Hezbollah and Hamas are part of a complex four-way relationship with each other and Iran and Syria. Iran helped to create, finance and train Hezbollah. Hamas’s political leader, Khaled Meshal, lives and works in Damascus. The expectation among political and foreign affairs analysts is that Hamas and Hezbollah would never have taken such provocative actions without at least the tacit approval of their sponsors in Tehran or Damascus.

Fouad Siniora, Lebanon’s prime minister, sought to distance the government from the Hezbollah raid after an emergency cabinet meeting. He noted that the Lebanese government was “not aware of and does not take responsibility for, nor endorses, what happened on the international border.”

Meanwhile, a strike by Israeli aircraft early today heavily damaged the Palestinian Foreign Ministry building in Gaza. There were reports of injuries, though it was unclear whether they included people inside the ministry, which is controlled by Hamas, or in nearby buildings.

Greg Myre reported from Jerusalem for this article, and Steven Erlanger from Gaza City. Hassan M. Fattah contributed reporting from Beirut, and Michael Slackman from Cairo.


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no convention, but i am going to Monkey Jungle in Miami on Saturday.


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At the risk of ostracization...imagine a world without religion...
No, really...all wars are about who's got the best god. Nix religion and we're all a whole lot better off.

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Ah yes, Pol Pot, Ghengis Khan, Hitler, all of Japan in WWII, Stalin and many more all were about pushing their religion.


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At the risk of ostracization...imagine a world without religion...
No, really...all wars are about who's got the best god. Nix religion and we're all a whole lot better off.


Completely not even true. If it wasn't religion, it'd be whose froot loops are more colorful in the morning. Religion is just a scapegoat.

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At the risk of ostracization...imagine a world without religion...
No, really...all wars are about who's got the best god. Nix religion and we're all a whole lot better off.


Completely not even true. If it wasn't religion, it'd be whose froot loops are more colorful in the morning. Religion is just a scapegoat.


It's hardly EVER about religion. It's about power and land and megalomania and wanting to dominate the earth. Almost every single major war has been more about land and domination than anything at all about religion.


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religion is just a useful tool to give a war a cover often

i mean, Hitler always claimed Christianity


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You watch those nature documentaries on the cable? You see the one about lions? You got this lion. He's the king of the jungle, huge mane out to here. He's laying under a tree, in the middle of Africa. He's so big, it's so hot. He doesn't want to move. Now the little lions come, they start messing with him. Biting his tail, biting his ears. He doesn't do anything. The lioness, she starts messing with him. Coming over, making trouble. Still nothing. Now the other animals, they notice this. They start to move in. The jackals; hyenas. They're barking at him, laughing at him. They nip his toes, and eat the food that's in his domain. They do this, then they get closer and closer, bolder and bolder. Till one day, that lion gets up and tears the shit out of everybody. Runs like the wind, eats everything in his path. Cause every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is.


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You watch those nature documentaries on the cable? You see the one about lions? You got this lion. He's the king of the jungle, huge mane out to here. He's laying under a tree, in the middle of Africa. He's so big, it's so hot. He doesn't want to move. Now the little lions come, they start messing with him. Biting his tail, biting his ears. He doesn't do anything. The lioness, she starts messing with him. Coming over, making trouble. Still nothing. Now the other animals, they notice this. They start to move in. The jackals; hyenas. They're barking at him, laughing at him. They nip his toes, and eat the food that's in his domain. They do this, then they get closer and closer, bolder and bolder. Till one day, that lion gets up and tears the shit out of everybody. Runs like the wind, eats everything in his path. Cause every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is.


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WHAT THE FUH!!!



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Quick round up of Middle East crisis.

Bunch of assholes vs bunch of pricks

Bunch of assholes supported by bunch of cocksuckers.
Bunch of pricks supported by bunch of cunts.

Bunch of cowardly shitebags pretend nothing is happening.

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Quick round up of Middle East crisis.

Bunch of assholes vs bunch of pricks

Bunch of assholes supported by bunch of cocksuckers.
Bunch of pricks supported by bunch of cunts.

Bunch of cowardly shitebags pretend nothing is happening.


something's happening?


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Disproportionate!? The news and the world leaders are saying that Israel's reaction was disproportionate. This is outrageous. They leave the Gaza Strip. THe remove themselves from the buffer zone between them and Lebanon. Virtaully as soon as they do that, the get Rockets launched into their country. I mean, what else do they need to do besides drop leaflets telling those who are near the Hezbollah areas to leave and seek a safer area because if they stay they will be injured and making very targeted atacks. A lack of restraint would just be blowing up the middle east which Israel could do.

It's so ridiculous. It's like the argument is "it all started after he hit me back". I understand there has been a history of violent exchage between them. But it is always justified when the suicide bombers do stuff. "Oh, well, you have to understand, they're trying to protect themselves and defend themselves". No they aren't. THey are trying to kill innocent people. THat's it. Israel makes targeted attacks on very specific areas known worldwide to be Hezbollah areas in retaliation of them launching rockets indiscriminately into Israel with no care of where or who they kill.

I think that it is unfortunate for the rest of the middle east that they have spent so much time oppressing their people and using their money for themselves that they don't have enough weapons, not unfair. Imagine if Cuba launched rockets into our country and hit FLorida and were doing it because they didn't like us. You can guaratee that we would obliterate Cuba. There would be no talk of "restraint" or "disproportionate reactions". It wouldn't happen.


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I keep switching between Sky news in the Uk and fox news in the US and the difference is a little bit worrying. Sky news are just reporting on where the strikes have actually happened. Fox news seems to be focusing on 'info' that an Iranian missile has hit Israel and that Syria has been hit. I mean its all fucking bullshit but just the amount of times that fox seem to be namedropping Iran & Syria pisses me off.


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Although Fox has mentioned those things. I don't think it is untrue. I have been going back and forth between CNN and MSNBC. Pretty much Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria, and Iran are looking to form together. I don't think that is a stretch at all. I haven't heard anything about an Iranian missile. But, it was reported that since wednesday there have been more than 350 missiles from Hezbollah launched into Israel. And the missiles have been coming for months prior to that. I am surprised it took this long for them to respond.


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Yeah, it just drives me crazy, you just don't know who, if anyone, to believe. You could say that Israel withdrawed, but what damage did they do beforehand. Fuck i don't know, i think i go with Darrin's assesment.

But seriously fox news scaremongering(sp) with oil prices, the economy slowdown due to this and iran's involvement is a fucking disgrace, to me anyway.

I'm sure it will not be long before we hear that shit on the Uk news though. I think they are partners with fox anyway.


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Well, I think the oil prices issue is pretty significant and it directly relates to this. Iran has stated that if they or Syria are attacked they are going to close the straits that are used to transport a third of the world's oil possibly making oil go up to 100 bucks a barrel. This isn't a scare tactic by the news. It's a real threart by Iran. At least that's what the news stations are saying. hahaha.


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