Indie is the new mainstream

wenchlette · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:18 pm

Good music is always out there mingling with everything else, you just have to be willing to hear it.

I was introduced to the Jayhawks and David Garza because of matchbox twenty and Jude and the French Kicks thanks to a local radio station I was listening to at the same time.

wenchlette · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:20 pm

the redworm Wrote:

Hegel-Oh's Wrote:

break out the Matchbox Twenty discs and give em some spins again.

<--- was told a few weeks ago by Lady Squirrgle that he looked just like Rob Thomas.

hmmm... I can see that a little.

Postmersh · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:01 pm

pumachik Wrote:

wow thom yorke at #2 in the first week....

the way i look at it, it just means more people are starting to realize what quality music is.

That's true - one of those "now that's what I call hits" records was at #1...

pumachick Wrote:

and i swear, i never got sick of a band so fast than i did with gnarls barkley. my goodness.

I ordered the "Crazy" 12" as soon as it came out, and was pretty sick of that song when I finally recieved it a week and a half later... Not a bad song, but can you say overplayed?

Postmersh · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:02 pm

SpontaneousPoet Wrote:

rparis74 Wrote:

start?

You're right. I never stopped. Scott Stap is a dreamy hunka hunka burnin' God love.

It's good to be the king

wenchlette · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:04 pm

He looks like an ugly baby lion.

Postmersh · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:06 pm

SpontaneousPoet Wrote:

If indie is the new mainstream does that mean I'm going to have to start listening to Creed again to be cool?

Not at all...

It's a widely known fact that Commercial Hip Hop is the new "indie cred"...

If I go to one more party/show/etc. where "indie" kids are imitating Young Jeezy like they're the first ones in the world to yell out "Jeah!", I don't know what I'm going to do...

paladisiac · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:07 pm

this just means that the big record labels will start looking for the indie-ish/alt clones that are making it big. just as nirvana/pearl jam somehow begat candlebox which somehow later begat creed, i'm sure thom yorke /radiohead will do the same.

oh wait, we have coldplay, travis, keane, snow patrol, muse... (not saying all those are crap, i'm just disgusted with the "let's put out as many clones as possible" routine.)

wenchlette · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:11 pm

Postmersh Wrote:

SpontaneousPoet Wrote:

If indie is the new mainstream does that mean I'm going to have to start listening to Creed again to be cool?

Not at all...

It's a widely known fact that Commercial Hip Hop is the new "indie cred"...

Good to know. I'm all ready the whitest girl ever to be caught showing off my mad skillz in the form of a Ludacris song in public.

Postmersh · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:12 pm

SpontaneousPoet Wrote:

He looks like an ugly baby lion.

<- Crossing his fingers and hoping that Scott Stapp gets trampled instead of Mufasa...

discostu · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:13 pm

tthorn Wrote:

No, not saying indie is higher quality, but it's nice when music I like actually makes it big. It's not great when the concert sizes get bigger, but hey, you can't keep everything to yourself. After always hearing people say my music taste is 'obscure', it's nice when occasionally that's not actually true. You know.

- T

People on the outside of this indie culture usually perceive people like "us" as snobs and criticize us by saying "I bet you'll hate that band when they get big." I guess it's a good thing that you feel the way you do? Is the tide turning? No, probably not. Carry on.

HaqDiesel · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:15 pm

the redworm Wrote:

I can't think of a single indie thing about Johnny Cash.

He released his first couple albums and several of his recent ones on independent labels, and defied the conventions of the mainstream country and rock genres of his day.

Unless you're using the increasingly popular, cynical, sneering definition of "indie" that implies "sounds like Broken Social Scene" but doesn't really mean anything.

paladisiac · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:17 pm

HaqDiesel Wrote:

the redworm Wrote:

I can't think of a single indie thing about Johnny Cash.

He released his first couple albums and several of his recent ones on independent labels, and defied the conventions of the mainstream country and rock genres of his day.

Unless you're using the increasingly popular, cynical, sneering definition of "indie" that implies "sounds like Broken Social Scene" but doesn't really mean anything.

JOHNNY CASH DOES NOT SOUND LIKE BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE!!!~1!

:domokun:

HaqDiesel · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:19 pm

Plus the album tthorn is referring to was released on an independent label. Other than that, there is no reason why the new Johnny Cash record should be considered an independent release.

djdan · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:21 pm

Let's not get too carried away. James Blunt, Rascal Flatts and the cast of Disney's "High School Musical" soundtrack are the top-selling artists of 2006 thus far.

Cotton · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm **Posts:** 17155

i thought def american was owned by one of the majors though.

katie, a princess · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:52 pm

we don't update our charts until thursday mornings. but we know the day prior which ones will be topping it when they are, in fact, updated.

http://billboard.com/bbcom/news/article ... 1002875674

one particularly funny note is that, while indie-typeish artists are still making good numbers, "now 22" still managed to move nearly 400,000 units, about 300,000 more than yorkes rekkid.

and while we're on the topic, "the eraser" is boring.

shiv · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:00 pm

the redworm Wrote:

Hegel-Oh's Wrote:

break out the Matchbox Twenty discs and give em some spins again.

<--- was told a few weeks ago by Lady Squirrgle that he looked just like Rob Thomas.

ouch. did you hit her?

paladisiac · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:03 pm

the redworm Wrote:

i thought deaf american was a pop music fan reference.

Elvis Fu · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:43 pm

tthorn Wrote:

No, not saying indie is higher quality, but it's nice when music I like actually makes it big. It's not great when the concert sizes get bigger, but hey, you can't keep everything to yourself. After always hearing people say my music taste is 'obscure', it's nice when occasionally that's not actually true. You know.

- T

Not only that, but it's nice to see bands you dig make some dough.

telescope · **Posted:** Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:23 pm

Elvis Fu Wrote:

tthorn Wrote:

No, not saying indie is higher quality, but it's nice when music I like actually makes it big. It's not great when the concert sizes get bigger, but hey, you can't keep everything to yourself. After always hearing people say my music taste is 'obscure', it's nice when occasionally that's not actually true. You know.

- T

Not only that, but it's nice to see bands you dig make some dough.

Definitely. Though I'll second hating when concert venue sizes, and ticket prices, increase with it

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