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that's possibly the worst downloading site i've ever been to.


yeah, what the hell is up with that?

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It came out as an RAR file. ?????? I just deleted it. Not worth it.

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that's possibly the worst downloading site i've ever been to.


yeah, what the hell is up with that?


hey, I never said the site was any good. I forget what it was, but there was an album or two that I got off there months ago that I was excited, so I bookmarked it.

But shiv I figured the porn alone would keep it from being the worst downloading site you've ever been to.


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Sleepytime Tea Wrote:
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that's possibly the worst downloading site i've ever been to.


yeah, what the hell is up with that?


hey, I never said the site was any good. I forget what it was, but there was an album or two that I got off there months ago that I was excited, so I bookmarked it.

But shiv I figured the porn alone would keep it from being the worst downloading site you've ever been to.


I didn't see any porn, just ads for shitty ringtones.

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and a lot of shitty nu-metal. like every third post is porn.

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Did anyone else listen to the album? I played it a couple of times today and put some thoughts down over lunch.

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"Better" has a certain cadence I found immediately appealing, which struck me as odd because initially I really hated it. But soon enough my initial feelings came back and I decided that it could have been something interesting with the original band, but now it really doesn't take off and just hunkers down within itself instead of bursting forth.

"IRS" starts out semi-interesting but doesn't really progress to anything. One gets the sense there was a probably a decent song in here but it just doesn't happen. (This phrase is going to be repeated many times).

"There was A Time" is just boring. It started out boring and actually got a bit worse as it went on.

"Catcher in the Rye" might be my favourite song on the album, despite it beginning with some piano plinking by the vile and horrible Dizzy Reed, the man who ultimately made UYI less than it could have been. This song could have been a decent track on UYI II. There are moments during this song that actually makes me feel like I'm 18 again and am hearing the new Guns and Roses for the first time. There's a solo near the end that makes me wish for another song by the original band because I could really hear Slash there for a moment and I actually felt really, really melancholy. Then it passes as the next song begins.

"Chinese Democracy" is also fairly shitty. I don't know what else to say about it. It doesn't rock at all. I guess he's probably trying to make a statement here but I'm beyond caring about it because the music is so awful.

"The Blues" - Elton John beginnings and once again I could hear Slash on this song and feel that twinge of nostalgia. I actually kind of enjoyed this one as well. There's no coincidence that the more I hear the "old" band in these songs, the more I enjoy it. The more it strays towards something else, I'm disinterested.

"Madagascar" - This is beyond horrible. The audio snippets near the end, with MLK, Mississippi Burning, Cool Hand Luke (again) are strange and ill-advised. It's pretentious and stupid. No shit, you can't find your way back Axl. That's REALLY evident on this song. This is what happens when you take full control of a band and no one is there to check your many, many ill-advised detours into meandering bullshit.

"Rhiad and the Bedouins" - I don't know if this is a real song or not. If it's complete, then it's the worst GnR track ever. Hell, not even Guns, let's just elect this as one of the worst songs, or ideas for a song, ever.

"Oh My God" sounds like any shitty modern rock song. There was an idea here that could have been worked into something and could have been slipped on UYI I even, near the end, maybe just before "Coma", but it gets worked into complete garbage. Worse than "Coma" actually.

"Silkworms" is just awful. Beyond redemption. I think I'd sooner listen to "My World" on a constant loop for 1000 years.

It seems like the basic structure of the songs lack an edge. It's like Axl put them through a filter and smoothed them out and then ran them through again and again and again. Maybe that's all he's been doing the last decade or so. It's like all the residual noise and sloppy accidents that makes for interesting rock and roll were just smoothed out until it became this botoxed mess of an album. Most of the songs seem too long by far, even the ones that clock in at less than 4 min. This isn't rock and roll. I don't care if it's got loud guitars and drums and a guy yelling a lot. If this is rock and roll then I am sober. The worst part is that I don't even hate it. At least if it evoked that particuluar emotion in me it might even qualify as an artistic statement. Alas, it does not.

The very modern sound is probably what I find most off-putting here. Of course, there are several problems with this statement. He's been been apparently working on this albums since the mid-90s, and we've actually had seen a couple of musical trends visit us and mercifully depart in the time it took for this album to STILL not be released. How can it sound modern when the recording time has probably taken longer than several marriages. Well, it just does and that's the only way to put it. It's got hints of nu-metal, NIN and other styles and that basic sound that just screams mediocre 21st century rock music. So not only does it sound 'Modern' but it also sounds dated all at the same time. So it fails on two fronts. Now I realize that it's contradictory to state that point, but perhaps it's that kind of fuzzy logic that gets passed on to you by this album. Maybe this will finally be the record that we were all warmed about by parents that if we continued to listen to this kind of music it would rot our brains. People, this might be the record that delivers on that promise.

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chinese-Democra ... 804&sr=1-5

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Well, if it comes out this year, you all get some free Dr. Pepper.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080327/en_nm/pepper_dc


Personally I'd take a can of Dr. Pepper over a Guns 'N Roses album any day.


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thanks for that review DumpJack

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thanks for that review DumpJack


After re-reading that review, I'm tempted to throw on "Chinese Democracy" and see how I feel a year later.

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Axl was "surprised and very happy to have the support of Dr Pepper."


That is pretty funny.


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I hear that this is being released as a special 2-disc set with the Obner mix.
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Dr. Pepper Wednesday...New Management Thursday...

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New management team for G N’R
I am very pleased to announce that Guns N’ Roses and I are now represented by the management team of Irving Azoff and Andy Gould. We are very excited and look forward to working with them and hope our relationship proves beneficial for everyone, especially the fans.

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Unless Axl manages to get all of the original members to re-record the damned thing, there's really no point in even releasing it. It's just going to be this massive over-hyped dud that ultimately tarnishes their discography.


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It's just going to be this massive over-hyped dud that ultimately tarnishes their discography.


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He's a massive over-hyped dude that's tarnishing their discography, so that's fitting.

And I wonder why they made exception to Slash and Buckethead -- it's not like it's their fault...is it?

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I think it's gong to need more than the original guys re-recording it. Some major re-writing is going to be required.


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It's rumored to drop Nov 23rd as a Best Buy exclusive.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081009/music_nm/us_guns_1


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i hope everyone's selling their stock in dr. pepper.

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from the Best Buy website.

Format
CD
Release Date
11/25/2008
Genre
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Interscope Records


Tracks

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1. Chinese Democracy
*2. Scraped
*3. Shackler's Revenge
*4. Street Of Dreams
*5. If The World
6. Better
*7. This I Love
8. There Was A Time
*9. Riad N' The Bedovins
*10. Sorry
*11. I.R.S.
*12. Catcher
*13. Madagascar
*14. Prostitute

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I can't believe it's actually going to happen this time. It's obviously going to suck. Here's the cover art:

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The track on Rock Band 2 was so awful.


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I'm really anticipating the critical blood bath and the train wreck late night talk show appearances.

The sharks are circling already......


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going to be more of a letdown than the 2nd Stone Roses album.


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