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Sen. P.O.D.Y. LooGAR Wrote:
Uhh, The New York Dolls ARE better than any glam-rock outfit that came after them. Have you heard their first album?



Yeah and it's not that great IMO. I think NYD are better known for their clothes, makeup and shock value rather than their music.


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Your major players are my minor ones. Now, if I had grown up ten years earlier however I might be agreeing with your observations here but you see how subjective this is? It's all a matter of opinion, taste and perhaps what era you've grown up in. Surely you have learned that by now? Different strokes for different folks, baby... otherwise we might as well debate which ice-cream flavor is more superior, Vanilla or Chocolate based on which one came first.

You're basically arguing that the skirmish you got into in grade 5 means more than World War II simply because it's your nose that was bleeding.


I stated it's all a continuum, so it's obviously not about who came first. It's about who played a larger role in that timeline - and the fact that we (and, ahem, you) are still discussing the Clash and the Replacements a couple decades down the line sorta suggests they both played a fairly major role, doesn't it?


Again, subjective.

How do you want to measure who had a bigger role or influence in American music, by album sales? Or perhaps a polling of approved snobby elitists? :roll: What definition do you want to go by?

And for the record, I don't bring up The Clash and the Replacements very often except in this case to make a point. Now if these bands are the most influential to you personally that's another matter. Just don't tell me that your thoughts applies to everyone else just because you think they're the best.


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south pacific Wrote:

Sorry, but this is bullshit pure and simple.

Your major players are my minor ones. Now, if I had grown up ten years earlier however I might be agreeing with your observations here but you see how subjective this is? It's all a matter of opinion, taste and perhaps what era you've grown up in. Surely you have learned that by now? Different strokes for different folks, baby... otherwise we might as well debate which ice-cream flavor is more superior, Vanilla or Chocolate based on which one came first. :roll:

But don't tell me The New York Dolls for example are better than any glam-rock outfit that came afterwards simply because they started a movement and they're what you heard and glommed onto first thirty years ago. For me, it really gets tiring to listen to older people who musical tastes seem to be stuck in the past and discredit nearly everything new that comes along.

No absolutes.


I agree with you on the fact that first shouldn't always equal best but the same thing applies in reverse, just because something is newer and glossier doesn't make it the best in the given genre. Besides, I'm probably younger then you and the Clash mean more to me then the yawn inducing Josh Rouse.


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Comparing Josh Rouse to The Clash is sort of like comparing apples to oranges...


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Radcliffe Wrote:
south pacific Wrote:
Your major players are my minor ones. Now, if I had grown up ten years earlier however I might be agreeing with your observations here but you see how subjective this is? It's all a matter of opinion, taste and perhaps what era you've grown up in. Surely you have learned that by now? Different strokes for different folks, baby... otherwise we might as well debate which ice-cream flavor is more superior, Vanilla or Chocolate based on which one came first.

You're basically arguing that the skirmish you got into in grade 5 means more than World War II simply because it's your nose that was bleeding.


if it meant more to him, yes, absltly, it means more

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(i mean strictly if he was speaking about "liking" josh rouse. i believe the whole musical genealogy of influence is a different issue)

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I just got through the first 1/2 of Nashville and it is very good, AOTY good ?...c'mon..its February. I liked 1972 ok, I loved Under The Cold Blue Stars. I'll listen to "side 2" later and post again, but yeah it is damn good.

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So I've listened to this a few times now and just wanted to say that this guy and this album are aces in my book. I will be checking out his back catalog.

This is just a great guitar pop album and is consistently good to great from beginning to end.

Anybody that liked any of the following albums I think will dig this:

Ryan Adams: Demolition
Ben Kweller: Sha Sha
Pete Yorn: Music for the Morning After

I.E- Guitar Pop

I think most of it sounds like a cross section of all the good things from these albums which isn't a bad thing.


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it's pretty good. i like it better than 1972, the only other of his i've heard so far. possible end-of-year top 20. (can i talk about that yet, being only march??)

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Liked "Home" and "1972" a lot and this one seems a notch or two above those. Def an early fave for year-end honors.
Nothing flashy or sensational. Like Derris said, it's just plain good.

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I previewed some tracks from 1972 when it came out, and it wasn't really doing it for me. I downloaded nashville a few weeks back, and love this album. I'm now really looking forward to checking out his back catalog.

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Yeah, this is just a HAIR behind Crooked Fingers right now for my album of the year.

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