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the real story behind the Tiger Woods accident.

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the real story behind the Tiger Woods accident.


"he was mumbling"

i mean, he is black *said cutely in Tina Fey's voice*


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Despite the fact that Obama can accurately construct a coherent sentence, not sure I'm buying into the increase of troops in Afghanistan. Anyone else marking July 2011 on their calendars to see if he ends up duping us?


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I'm about to the point where I suspect there IS no good outcome left available to us, and this move will just throw a bazillion more dollars (and a few thousand more lives) onto the inevitable pile. This whole NO SURRENDER thing can get expensive. But hey, if they think we can actually make some sorta difference, then fine.

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in other news, Meredith Baxter is gay. (yawn)


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I'm about to the point where I suspect there IS no good outcome left available to us, and this move will just throw a bazillion more dollars (and a few thousand more lives) onto the inevitable pile. This whole NO SURRENDER thing can get expensive. But hey, if they think we can actually make some sorta difference, then fine.


We've been damned if we do since the first undermanned invasion. Also, Iraq. And Barry is in an even stickier wicket. People want "Peace With Honor" or some such claptrap, but it will take Republican President 2012 or 2016 to deliver that.

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in other news, Meredith Baxter is gay. (yawn)

When I turned on the television this morning this was on and she was talking about how she's very private yada yada yada and Matt Lauer said something like "and so, your announcement is...?" and that was my exact reaction. I thought 'that's it?'

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
I'm about to the point where I suspect there IS no good outcome left available to us, and this move will just throw a bazillion more dollars (and a few thousand more lives) onto the inevitable pile. This whole NO SURRENDER thing can get expensive. But hey, if they think we can actually make some sorta difference, then fine.


We've been damned if we do since the first undermanned invasion. Also, Iraq. And Barry is in an even stickier wicket. People want "Peace With Honor" or some such claptrap, but it will take Republican President 2012 or 2016 to deliver that.


because they so honorably got us involved

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
I'm about to the point where I suspect there IS no good outcome left available to us, and this move will just throw a bazillion more dollars (and a few thousand more lives) onto the inevitable pile. This whole NO SURRENDER thing can get expensive. But hey, if they think we can actually make some sorta difference, then fine.


We've been damned if we do since the first undermanned invasion. Also, Iraq. And Barry is in an even stickier wicket. People want "Peace With Honor" or some such claptrap, but it will take Republican President 2012 or 2016 to deliver that.


because they so honorably got us involved



REALPOLITIK, toots.

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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in other news, Meredith Baxter is gay. (yawn)


Lol, I didn't even hear what they were talking about - just saw her on the TV this AM as I was leaving and I said to myself, "Hey look, Meredith Baxter is finally coming out of the closet"

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LooGAR'sFailsgivingDinner Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
I'm about to the point where I suspect there IS no good outcome left available to us, and this move will just throw a bazillion more dollars (and a few thousand more lives) onto the inevitable pile. This whole NO SURRENDER thing can get expensive. But hey, if they think we can actually make some sorta difference, then fine.


We've been damned if we do since the first undermanned invasion. Also, Iraq. And Barry is in an even stickier wicket. People want "Peace With Honor" or some such claptrap, but it will take Republican President 2012 or 2016 to deliver that.



Yeah, pretty much. Fuck all that mess.

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REALPOLITIK, toots.


aka: ignore reality and take the money


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LooGAR'sFailsgivingDinner Wrote:
REALPOLITIK, toots.


aka: ignore reality and take the money



AKA the chorus of "cheese eating surrender monkeys" is always too loud for a Dem to not look like Neville Chamberlain.

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http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... 53,00.html

Never before has a speech by President Barack Obama felt as false as his Tuesday address announcing America's new strategy for Afghanistan. It seemed like a campaign speech combined with Bush rhetoric -- and left both dreamers and realists feeling distraught.

One can hardly blame the West Point leadership. The academy commanders did their best to ensure that Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama's speech would be well-received.

Just minutes before the president took the stage inside Eisenhower Hall, the gathered cadets were asked to respond "enthusiastically" to the speech. But it didn't help: The soldiers' reception was cool.

One didn't have to be a cadet on Tuesday to feel a bit of nausea upon hearing Obama's speech. It was the least truthful address that he has ever held. He spoke of responsibility, but almost every sentence smelled of party tactics. He demanded sacrifice, but he was unable to say what it was for exactly.

An additional 30,000 US soldiers are to march into Afghanistan -- and then they will march right back out again. America is going to war -- and from there it will continue ahead to peace. It was the speech of a Nobel War Prize laureate.

Just in Time for the Campaign

For each troop movement, Obama had a number to match. US strength in Afghanistan will be tripled relative to the Bush years, a fact that is sure to impress hawks in America. But just 18 months later, just in time for Obama's re-election campaign, the horror of war is to end and the draw down will begin. The doves of peace will be let free.

The speech continued in that vein. It was as though Obama had taken one of his old campaign speeches and merged it with a text from the library of ex-President George W. Bush. Extremists kill in the name of Islam, he said, before adding that it is one of the "world's great religions." He promised that responsibility for the country's security would soon be transferred to the government of President Hamid Karzai -- a government which he said was "corrupt." The Taliban is dangerous and growing stronger. But "America will have to show our strength in the way that we end wars," he added.

It was a dizzying combination of surge and withdrawal, of marching to and fro. The fast pace was reminiscent of plays about the French revolution: Troops enter from the right to loud cannon fire and then they exit to the left. And at the end, the dead are left on stage.

Obama's Magic No Longer Works

But in this case, the public was more disturbed than entertained. Indeed, one could see the phenomenon in a number of places in recent weeks: Obama's magic no longer works. The allure of his words has grown weaker.

It is not he himself who has changed, but rather the benchmark used to evaluate him. For a president, the unit of measurement is real life. A leader is seen by citizens through the prism of their lives -- their job, their household budget, where they live and suffer. And, in the case of the war on terror, where they sometimes die.

Political dreams and yearnings for the future belong elsewhere. That was where the political charmer Obama was able to successfully capture the imaginations of millions of voters. It is a place where campaigners -- particularly those with a talent for oration -- are fond of taking refuge. It is also where Obama set up his campaign headquarters, in an enormous tent called "Hope."

In his speech on America's new Afghanistan strategy, Obama tried to speak to both places. It was two speeches in one. That is why it felt so false. Both dreamers and realists were left feeling distraught.

The American president doesn't need any opponents at the moment. He's already got himself.


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Americans should've considered most of this back when you were all so gung ho to go to war against them terrists in the first place.

But it's good you got a black guy to blame it on now. Congrats.


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But it's good you got a black guy to blame it on now. Congrats.


I can't get over how incredibly ignorant this statement is.


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she played second base on my softball team in the 80's.


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she played second base on my softball team in the 80's.


So you're the reason she switched teams?

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she got to second base with me in the 80's.


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So I'm officially voting Republican against Ben Nelson during the next election cycle if he chooses to run again.

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Sen. Ben Nelson said Wednesday he'll attempt to amend the Senate health care reform bill to include stricter anti-abortion funding language.

Nelson said his amendment will mirror the restrictive language in the House bill, which bans federal funding for abortions or to subsidize health insurance that includes abortion coverage.

If the Senate bill allows any funding to support abortions, Nelson said, he will vote against a cloture motion to end a Republican filibuster designed to prevent a final vote on the legislation.

What a god damn douchebag. I wish he'd pull a Ben Nighthorse Campbell and switch parties. He had been a member of the GOP until he wanted to become Governor of Nebraska.

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she got to second base with me in the 80's.


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