as a Pac-10 fan, I like where this is headed, if they can pull it off.

http://www.kctv5.com/sports/23860558/detail.html

Texas and A&M sticking it to Texas Tech and possibly Nebraska?
OU wants in the SEC?
Okie State still headed West?

I like Texas and Texas A&M to the SEC West...you preserve that rivalry and you bring back that Texas-Arkansas annual slugfest (plus shit like Texas-LSU and Texas-Bammer would be HUGE spectacles every fucking year)

To balance it, the East should drop Vandy and add these three: Clemson (love having Clemson-USC be a conference game), Georgia Tech (ditto GT-UGA), Louisville (ditto UK-Louisville plus it gets them out of the crowded Big East in hoops and strengthens the SEC in hoops along with the addition of a Texas)

LOVE Colorado to the PAC10. Oklahoma and OkSt. should follow suit along with a three team pic em of other schools.

I think Florida St to the SEC makes a lot of sense. Ga Tech & Clemson do too even though they were once SEC members and left.

There's no doubt that Texas is the crown jewel of the Big 12 dissolution, but I can't see them in the SEC. A&M I can see. People don't realize this but A&M - LSU was once a huge rivalry but our athletic departments got into a disagreement about $$$ and the series was discontinued w/ LSU still claiming they owe us. I still remember Aggie jokes.

tanner's right, a&m-lsu is a natural rivalry

I've just heard that Texas wants to bring along A&M wherever they end up, like their short, fat unathletic pal from high school who they get a scholarship for at a D1 school.

Chip Brown of OrangeBloods.com, who has been breaking most of the Big 12 stories has stated that it unlikely Texas and A&M join the Big Ten. OU's AD has stated that they are sticking with Texas and going where they go. So I'm guessing you will end up seeing them all going to the Pac 10 with Okie State and Texas Tech or somehow sticking with the Big 12 now.
KU's AD will be retiring by the end of the year, so that pretty much means they've embraced the stink of failure at this point.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 7e8f9.html

Poor Kansas.

Bloor - remember that when the Southwest Athletic Conference (EPIC LOMIT) broke up, UT and A&M were poised to go to the new-two-division SEC but the SEC didn't want sorry ol bonfire failing Aggies in the conference.

I had forgotten but now that you mention it...

Aggie Fan is so FAIL.

I've been saying that for year, yet it seems like every year somebody is hyping them to make big waves in the Big 12 and win the Big 12 South Division, and every year they are lucky to be 7-5 and make the Independence Bowl.
It can't get any better for them in the near future if Tommy Tuberville can keep Tech a bowl team and make them a contender.

Awesome. This is the funniest thing I have read on obner in months.

Yep. I was about to post that article on here--a great summation of the fucking idiocy of Beebe (not that Kevin Weiberg was any less of a clown).

I'm kind of resigned to this whole realignment thing...even though I'd rather things stay the way they are--but the die was cast with Colorado's move. My gut is that the Big 12 South schools don't go to SEC or Big 10 as has been in part rumored. I think the Pac-10 invites the rest of the Big 12 South save Baylor, as I could not imagine why in the hell they would invite Oklahoma State unless it was part of a much greater plan. But I do hope Oklahoma goes to the Pac-whatever when it's all said and done over the SEC. I think it would be cool for the University to have more exposure in that part of the country; for Basketball (which I'm more of a fan of) I think the Pac-10 would be a more interesting league to play in than the SEC; for football, OU already has inroads in California and being in the Pac Conference (coupled with the EPIC FAIL of USC Football) we could pillage that state for recruits. Potentially. Of course, I guess we'll just wait and see.


But outside of all that, I LAUGH AND LAUGH AND LAUGH AT KANSAS.

And at Baylor for thinking they could continue to ride the coattails of Texas and TA&M until the end of time.

What would you have Baylor do? The fact that UT controls everything, and will continue to do so, is ridiculous, but it's the way it is. The state of Texas is poised to lose $714 million with the collapse of the Big 12. Waco could lose close to $200 million and 1,700 jobs. Of course it's in Baylor's interest to cling to other 3 schools... as it has been since forever. And they should be mad since, academically speaking, they far outshine Okie Lite and Tech. And hilarious that Cal doesn't want a christian university in the Pac-16... just fucking say it, Berkeley... you don't like Ken Starr. People always relate this to athletic records (football solely since that's what's driving this) and hanging-on but as you can see, there's quite a bit more to the picture than ESPN will report.

All this because mighty UT wanted their own TV deal, ostracizing Nebraska, and causing all this mess. And Mizzou are assholes for publicly courting the Big 10 and showing their true colors last year. Now, it looks like they're fucked too since they're behind Rutgers and ND for Big 10 expansion.

I'm praying for the Big 12 to stay intact. Of course, there's no one even close to the caliber of NU that can fill that gap.

http://www.omaha.com/article/20100610/N ... ealignment



Also Chip Brown had told ESPN's College Football live yesterday that had the Big 12 been able to keep Nebraska, there was a move amongst several Big 12 Presidents to throw Missouri out of the conference for their apparent lack of loyalty and highly publicized complaints.

My Cyclones will soon be a member of the Lowly 4 (or possibly 3).

Man, the Lane Kiffin and Pete Carroll footage from yesterday was comedy gold.

Carroll for his feigned shock and Kiffin for his "USC is still USC" comments that were as transparent as the window I'm looking out of right now. He is the worst press guy ever. He can get people talking about him (mostly from acting like a buffoon) but man, when he's giving some statement he sounds like a complete cliche in everything he says.

Karma is a motherfucker sometimes.

How is Mike Garrett still employed today?

Totally. I realize that football is driving this bus right now because the Pac-10 and Big 12 TV contracts are coming up after this year (i think) but having Kansas just sit out there shows me that this whole thing is just so incredibly short sighted and a bunch of haves and have nots scrambling like rats on a sinking ship.

I mean, why on earth would you not have KU on your short list because of their hoops programs. Many teams flucuate with their level of success. Remember USC in the 90's? Remember when the ACC expanded and put Miami and FSU in different divisions thinking they'd just meet in the Championship game every year? Point is, teams come out of nowhere to have success and great teams go away sometimes.

Kansas is basketball bedrock. Why wouldn't you want them?

I'm not against teams/conferences maximizing their money but the amount of greed involved to just throw away a successful conference like the Big 12 is terribly disappointing and there seems to be no clear ending to it all. I mean, after all the dust settles, whose to say that this won't all happen again in 15 years?

Also, where are the Presidents during all this?? Time and time again many of them have come out against a football playoff citing "missed class time" and yet if the PAC-10 gets all 16 teams there will be a HUGE geographical issue with teams playing each other.

You telling me the Oregon Lady Ducks softball team is going over to Stillwater for a 2 game set with the Cowgirls on a Monday?? THAT won't cause missed class time. Chances are the would never play each other due to the cost effectiveness which begs the questions why they are even there (money).

So there are rumors floating about now that current A&M AD/Former Nebraska AD Bill Byrne and A&M Regent/Former Bama/A&M Coach Gene Stallings would prefer to see the Aggies go to the SEC and that a rift has developed between them and Texas.
The only thing that might keep them together is a threat to exclude A&M from scheduling non-conference games with other schools in Texas should they jump ship.

If A&M doesn't go to the Pac-10, and everyone else from the Big 12 South sans Baylor does, the Aggies slot allegedly goes to Kansas or Utah.

The amount of speculation out there right now is pandemic. I won't even begin to comment on any of that.

One thing though, the SEC has been as tight lipped as the mafia on all this. NOTHNG coming out of that camp right now.

It'll go to Utah.

I wonder if the remaining Big 12 schools (Kansas, K-State, Baylor, Mizzou, Iowa St.) would try to bring in Houston, TCU, SMU, Tulsa and Memphis from Conference USA. (Or vice-versa.)

TCU's not in C-USA, but you know what I mean.

The Scott Van Pelt show on ESPNU stated that Boise State has left the WAC for the MWC as previously speculated.

Osborne showed up for the Board of Regents meeting here in Lincoln with a notecard that read "Big Ten: reasons"
The meeting doesn't officially start until 1:00pm and the results might not be made public until around 3:00pm, but it's already pretty obvious.

WAC to MWC seems like the ultimate lateral move.