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<-----is not offended when Chris Rock uses the word "cracker".


That's because you are clearly a honky.

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jewels santana Wrote:
(or like when my mayor said that the 'brothers and sisters' were running philly)


He was probably just alluding to nepotism, i.e. his brothers & sisters.

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(or like when my mayor said that the 'brothers and sisters' were running philly)


He was probably just alluding to nepotism, i.e. his brothers & sisters.


i think he's been acused of that too.

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i have a friend that drops n bombs sometimes, not in a bad way, just like, hey nigga. i tell him to shut the fuck up most times. it is really annoying.

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i have a friend that drops n bombs sometimes, not in a bad way, just like, hey nigga. i tell him to shut the fuck up most times. it is really annoying.


this is a weird situation because it's cool black peoples fault, not racists fault.

i've let it slip, but always regret it.
and others using it makes me uncomfortable.

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i have a friend that drops n bombs sometimes, not in a bad way, just like, hey nigga.


i'm sure it's in front of all his black friends too, right?

it's one of the most offensive and loaded words in the english language and i don't care who is using it. period.


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i get that it is a really offensive word, but what i think is so silly is how you can't even say the word, it have to be referred to as "the n-word"


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i get that it is a really offensive word, but what i think is so silly is how you can't even say the word, it have to be referred to as "the n-word"


hey, we agree.


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i get that it is a really offensive word, but what i think is so silly is how you can't even say the word, it have to be referred to as "the n-word"


it's not silly at all. think about it. it divides an entire nation. people fight and kill each other over this "word". stand anywhere in america and shout it out. it's incendiary. there's no reason to use it.


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i get that it is a really offensive word, but what i think is so silly is how you can't even say the word, it have to be referred to as "the n-word"


it's not silly at all. think about it. it divides an entire nation. people fight and kill each other over this "word". stand anywhere in america and shout it out. it's incendiary. there's no reason to use it.


I think it should be used so much it loses the stigma, but I'm a straight white male, so my opinion doesn't really matter in discussions like this.

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Sen. Dat Reverend LooGAR Wrote:
I think it should be used so much it loses the stigma


i "get this" but it will never happen.


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I'm a straight white male, so my opinion doesn't really matter in discussions like this.


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ayah Wrote:
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i get that it is a really offensive word, but what i think is so silly is how you can't even say the word, it have to be referred to as "the n-word"


it's not silly at all. think about it. it divides an entire nation. people fight and kill each other over this "word". stand anywhere in america and shout it out. it's incendiary. there's no reason to use it.


killing people over a word is even sillier.


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killing people over a word is even sillier.


true but very naive.


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Sen. Dat Reverend LooGAR Wrote:
I think it should be used so much it loses the stigma


i "get this" but it will never happen.


Sen. Dat Reverend LooGAR Wrote:
I'm a straight white male, so my opinion doesn't really matter in discussions like this.


poor baby.


No irony in posting this, but anyone and everyone can pull out whatever minority they happen to belong to and everyone oohs and aahs. And you wonder why I'm a dieing breed in the Dem Party?

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Sen. Dat Reverend LooGAR Wrote:
And you wonder why I'm a dieing breed in the Dem Party?


i agree. democrats just don't know how to dress well.

an aside: i loooove that kissinger quote.


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a black guy once called said to me, "my niggah!" before giving me a pound.

i felt cool.

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killing people over a word is even sillier.


true but very naive.


Disagree. How many deaths in the U.S. were black and white race related last year? I don't know, but I'm thinking it's not too high. Maybe the whole problem is b/c too much is taboo? None of the black people I know would be offended if I said "hey can you believe that asshole just called you a nigger?"


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Words mean things. It's not silly.

This word wasn't used merely as a taunt or childish prattle.

This word was used to subjugate an entire race of people.

This word was used not only to justify the abuse and murder of people for such crimes as looking at a white woman, acting uppity or just generally not knowing their place in society. It was also to nullify any attempts at punishing even the most vile offenders.

If you think that should just be wished away with the wave of a wand because it's "silly", then you really aren't as liberal as you like to preach.

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Words mean things. It's not silly.

This word wasn't used merely as a taunt or childish prattle.

This word was used to subjugate an entire race of people.

This word was used not only to justify the abuse and murder of people for such crimes as looking at a white woman, acting uppity or just generally not knowing their place in society. It was also to nullify any attempts at punishing even the most vile offenders.

If you think that should just be wished away with the wave of a wand because it's "silly", then you really aren't as liberal as you like to preach.


I agree with all of that, but the point is you can't reference the word. Not that the word is silly. I think there is a difference. But of course as the senator said I'm straight and white, and probably should get out of this discussion


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Emmitt Till was killed 50 years ago in August. He would be 64 years old if he weren't brutally murdered.

It hasn't been that long, people. I'm not a fan of pandering, hand-outs and reparations, but some of the wounds have to actually heal first.

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i know words mean things. :roll:

but the idea that you can not say 'nigger' in any context and have to replace it with 'the n-word' to me is just plain silly.

to see white people singing (?) along to rap music and hitting all the words but 'nigger' if/when it comes up (to me) is funny and probably unnecessary


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kids growing up today understand that its a word with a horrible past, but they also grow up with their HERO'S saying it every five seconds.

it's a word that can be used in many many ways.

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scottycash99 Wrote:
i know words mean things. :roll:

but the idea that you can not say 'nigger' in any context and have to replace it with 'the n-word' to me is just plain silly.

to see white people singing (?) along to rap music and hitting all the words but 'nigger' if/when it comes up (to me) is funny and probably unnecessary


singing "nigger" in a rap song is unnecessary.


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to see white people singing (?) along to rap music and hitting all the words but 'nigger' if/when it comes up (to me) is funny and probably unnecessary


i DJ to a 90% black crowd, and i do this out of respect (and a little fear?)

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Words mean things. It's not silly.

This word wasn't used merely as a taunt or childish prattle.

This word was used to subjugate an entire race of people.

This word was used not only to justify the abuse and murder of people for such crimes as looking at a white woman, acting uppity or just generally not knowing their place in society. It was also to nullify any attempts at punishing even the most vile offenders.

If you think that should just be wished away with the wave of a wand because it's "silly", then you really aren't as liberal as you like to preach.


I agree with all of that, but the point is you can't reference the word. Not that the word is silly. I think there is a difference. But of course as the senator said I'm straight and white, and probably should get out of this discussion


I think you can reference all you want as long as you do so with a certain sensitivity. And if your audience takes offense, take your lumps and move on. I have no problem saying it in proper context and necessity. Otherwise it needs to go the way of "dungarees".

Nader's problem is that his usage was an idiotic ploy for sympathy.

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