i read the school speech, and it's totally benign "work hard and pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and "trust your elders" kind of stuff that right wingers eat up. NOT ON MY WATCH SOCIALIST

The Big Money (Slate podcast) talked about the Obama Fail Caucus, which I think is a good way of stating what these people have become. They're against anything of his succeeding, dispite what it means for our economy, country, children, etc.

"I know that sometimes, you get the sense from TV that you can be rich and successful without any hard work -- that your ticket to success is through rapping or basketball or being a reality TV star, when chances are, you’re not going to be any of those things."

NOOOOOOOOBAMA, DON'T TELL THEM THAT!!!!!

some old guy at the gym was saying "can you just believe all that nonsense they were sayin about that speech? for gods sake, it's a saccharine speech to the kids"

the country's turning around, folks

right wing parents don't want to indoctrinate their kids with good values.

I'm confused why he would be so confounded/dismayed about a speech to kids about good values and work ethic.

he's just crotchedy

she always seemed like a pretty classy lady.

I FUH

I like how everyone on both sides are waiting for this big Obama fuck you to the GOP that's never going to happen.

not sure if you were implying that i'm waiting for a big fuck you, I was just saying the speech wasn't anything close to being something people should have gotten worked up about, pulling their kids out of school and such.

Obama wants to know what each of us, as American's can do to "serve" him... I don't serve anyone but My Lord...






de-friended

Al Franken is my new political hero.

i saw he can draw america really fast

http://tinyurl.com/lpzgwn

I say fuck'em now. If they are going to pass this shit without a public option and a clause stating they can fine me for not having insurance, they deserve a mid-term election loss.

Absolutely retarded. Why don't you take that $750 or more you'll fine me and give me a decent insurance plan with it. That's 62.50 a month from my calculation. That's a lot less than what it was being taken out of my paycheck to cover a basic Blue Cross/Blue Shield plan at work with Dental/Vision added in.

thats kinda my economics right now

if the public plan is good enough, fuck my current plan. i'd save about $160/mo

Why the fuck don't you guys get sweet sweet Big Corporate jobs already? Jesus, bitch bitch bitch.

I think it should be simple.

The government should offer a discount plan to everybody, but everybody has to pay something. If you want to pay more to get a better plan, fine. If you don't want to have any plan, fine, no health care for you but then we run into big problems with the pre-existing condition b.s.

I'm still betting on some "trigger" plan... giving the insurers a chance to develop some lower cost options, but then, if they fail after a couple of years, boom, public plan in place. Tomorrow should be really interesting!!!

I understand Grassley is going to meet with Baucus in the morning with a few more things to discuss.

Devil is always in the details, TJ.

The main detail being that any public option is going to have to also include a provision making it mandatory that everyone have coverage. Otherwise, your pool of healthy people will be too small to make the numbers work.