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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:50 pm 
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Such a great episode. Can anyone tell me why Lane needs the cash so badly? I didn't follow why he owed the money.


he owes British back taxes and is sending his kid to school


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Ah ha. Thanks, Stu.


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GQ interview with Christina Hendricks about Sunday's episode SPOILERS CONTAINED HEREIN


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No comment on last night's episode? I thought last week made me uncomfortable.


**SPOILER ALERT** - Tommy's post below


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& Price will never do it, 'cause stiff upper lip, chap.


OOPS.

That bit with the Jaguar was something that had been foreshadowed for the past few episodes but was darkly hilarious, though. I busted out laughing once I figured out what they were doing with that gag.

That doll (or whatever was used) of Pryce post-hanging was pretty graphic, and the camera seemed to linger on the body just a second or two longer than you would expect. I don't believe I've ever seen anything like that on a tv show before.


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two guns holla Wrote:
Tee Wrote:
& Price will never do it, 'cause stiff upper lip, chap.


OOPS.

That bit with the Jaguar was something that had been foreshadowed for the past few episodes but was darkly hilarious, though. I busted out laughing once I figured out what they were doing with that gag.

That doll (or whatever was used) of Pryce post-hanging was pretty graphic, and the camera seemed to linger on the body just a second or two longer than you would expect.I don't believe I've ever seen anything like that on a tv show before.


Guess you've never watched any episodes of the CSI franchise, Bones, or any of those dime-a-dozen procedurals?


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Well, I was talking specifically about the hanging. Something about it was different to me and I couldn't remember seeing it depicted so graphically before. They've shown hangings on shows like Game of Thrones, but the person drops and you see the neck snap and then thats it. Lane was shown a couple of days later, with rigor mortis set in and the burst blood veins in his neck. The image is kind of sticking with me.


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Well, I was talking specifically about the hanging. Something about it was different to me and I couldn't remember seeing it depicted so graphically before. They've shown hangings on shows like Game of Thrones, but the person drops and you see the neck snap and then thats it. Lane was shown a couple of days later, with rigor mortis set in and the burst blood veins in his neck. The image is kind of sticking with me.


yeah, I thought at the time it looked realistic and wondered to myself if they had a researcher on staff who had to look at a bunch of photographs of hanging victims to find that "just right" look of death by hanging/asphyxiation.


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two guns holla Wrote:
Well, I was talking specifically about the hanging. Something about it was different to me and I couldn't remember seeing it depicted so graphically before. They've shown hangings on shows like Game of Thrones, but the person drops and you see the neck snap and then thats it. Lane was shown a couple of days later, with rigor mortis set in and the burst blood veins in his neck. The image is kind of sticking with me.


yeah, I thought at the time it looked realistic and wondered to myself if they had a researcher on staff who had to look at a bunch of photographs of hanging victims to find that "just right" look of death by hanging/asphyxiation.


I thought it was probably him in makeup, but I wasn't sure how the would have done the hanging part (though the explanation of using a rig makes sense). This interview with Jared Harris, the actor, confirms it was him: http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watchi ... s-and-fees

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How long were you up in that rig in the scene where the men come to cut Lane down?

We don't have a lot of time to shoot stuff. I personally might have been hanging for about an hour or so.


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Are there any specific challenges to being dead?

Making your eyes go dead, that sort of glassy look. That one, we looked at lots of pictures of people who had hung themselves, the makeup department. There's that weird thing where the tongue sticks out. That's not a makeup thing, you've got to do that yourself. You have to make sure your tongue doesn't twitch. The hardest part was not breaking into a Monty Python song, like, "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" while I'm hanging there in the middle of their shot. And they didn't see me. When they literally pushed through that door and saw me hanging, that was the first time they had seen it. They didn't see a rehearsal or anything like that. That was their first look at it, and that was pretty genuine shock on all their faces. They knew, of course, because they had read the script, but those guys did a brilliant job, the makeup department. And they hadn't seen that.


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Jared Harris has now been killed off on both shows he had a supporting roll in, Fringe and Mad Men


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Damn, I thought Don would buy his explanation.

And while Sterling still has the champion wit, I think Don won the night with "Or I could leave and you all can do whatever you want anyways."

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Damn, I thought Don would buy his explanation.

And while Sterling still has the champion wit, I think Don won the night with "Or I could leave and you all can do whatever you want anyways."


I think it is important to note that Don said that he DID buy his explanation.....but because he forged Don's signature, Don felt that he could not trust him anymore.

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And while Sterling still has the champion wit, I think Don won the night with "Or I could leave and you all can do whatever you want anyways."


That really was an awesome line. Also Sterling's line about needing to get Don a drink to wash the blood off his mouth when they left Dow.

Pretty damn devastating denouement for Lane. I think him holding half of his glasses to his eye trying desperately to fix the Jag was really sad and powerful. In the immortal words of Jerry Garcia, "Bummer"

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Yeah that was a heavy one. Soon as I saw that green jag I knew, that's the part that will push him over the cliff.

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Yeah that was a heavy one. Soon as I saw that green jag I knew, that's the part that will push him over the cliff.


and that's when it went into Black Comedy territory


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Jared Harris has now been killed off on both shows he had a supporting roll in, Fringe and Mad Men


damn, stu, you just beat me to the season finale of fringe!


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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Yeah that was a heavy one. Soon as I saw that green jag I knew, that's the part that will push him over the cliff.


me too. at that second, i knew he was done.


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Yeah that was a heavy one. Soon as I saw that green jag I knew, that's the part that will push him over the cliff.


me too. at that second, i knew he was done.


Soon as I saw that car I covered my mouth with my hand. Wife was like "what?!", and I said "oooooh, that's it. He's done for."

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Here's how I would rank the candidates for suicide, in order of likelihood:

1. Lane Price

2. Pete Campbell
3. Don Draper
4. Sally Draper (but not until high school or college)
5. Jane Siegel
6. Michael Ginsberg
7. Harry Crane
8. Paul Kinsey
9. Roger Sterling
10. Mother Lakshmi


NAILED IT!

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Senator LooGAR Wrote:

And while Sterling still has the champion wit, I think Don won the night with "Or I could leave and you all can do whatever you want anyways."


That really was an awesome line. Also Sterling's line about needing to get Don a drink to wash the blood off his mouth when they left Dow.


Also, that line about how "no" made him hard.

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And with regard to Dow, I predict the two other guys from Dow will overrule Leland Palmer - or at least convince him that his petty vendetta against Draper is not more important than them having the best ad agency who can get them more than 50% market share.

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Also, props to Weiner for not taking the obvious route of having creepy Glen (his real-life son) throw it in Sally.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
saint Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Yeah that was a heavy one. Soon as I saw that green jag I knew, that's the part that will push him over the cliff.


me too. at that second, i knew he was done.


Soon as I saw that car I covered my mouth with my hand. Wife was like "what?!", and I said "oooooh, that's it. He's done for."


When she handed him the keys, fully knowing he was almost too drunk to even stand up, I assumed his death would be the result of a drunken car crash in the new Jag. The non-starting Jag and eventual office Brooksy-ing was MUCH better.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
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Yeah that was a heavy one. Soon as I saw that green jag I knew, that's the part that will push him over the cliff.


me too. at that second, i knew he was done.


Soon as I saw that car I covered my mouth with my hand. Wife was like "what?!", and I said "oooooh, that's it. He's done for."


When she handed him the keys, fully knowing he was almost too drunk to even stand up, I assumed his death would be the result of a drunken car crash in the new Jag. The non-starting Jag and eventual office Brooksy-ing was MUCH better.


I was hoping for a Miltonian end for the Lane storyline.

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I was hoping for a Miltonian end for the Lane storyline.

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